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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:31 AM
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Relevance of Saddam's sons' buying the farm
How long before people figure out that our troops will still be shot at constantly despite Uday and Qusay's demise? I look at their death as a positive development in two ways: 1) Two fewer assholes on Earth. 2) We can get beyond the fiction that resistance in Iraq is the work of "Saddam loyalists" (Was much of anyone really loyal to him? I think they were more AFRAID of him) and get to the truth of the matter, i.e., the Iraqis are resisting because they know the invasion was nothing more than an imperialistic oil-grab clothed in a pious fig-leaf of concern for their well-being. (Puh-leeze, where was this concern in the 80's when we couldn't do enough for Saddam?) I expect resistance in Iraq to continue and even intensify. Thoughts?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:34 AM
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1. On another board, someone claimed....
That the sons had a list of names of insurgents with them. Anyone else hear anything like that? It doesn't sound like the sort of thing that our people would release. It sounds like something sort of made up out of the whole cloth.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:38 AM
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2. Don't buy it for a second
And a list is pretty useless. I'm sure those listed are well underground.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:56 AM
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5. too bad
they didn't have maps to the missing WMD. (or were they non-existant?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:40 AM
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3. I think few will mourn
...for those two psychopaths. However, all Hussein has to do is cool his heels somewhere for a few months, and they will welcome him back. After all, he's been vindicated when it comes to the claims of hidden weapons and ongoing research, and Bush is obviously more concerned with the oil fields than with any other part of the country.

However, were they to locate and kill him tomorrow, the resistance would only grow. After all, as much as the people hated Hussein, they hate Bush more.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:47 AM
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4. The question is
what made those two yobbos worth even ONE Americcan life....much less 250-plus?

And why aren't the GOP idiots who propped the Hussein family up in power and sent them military and other aid arrested and being put on trial?
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:57 AM
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6. Remember this comment by
some brass about 2 weeks ago, who said that as long as Saddam would be alive the mes would continue? Well, that gives us a measure of the understanding our military strategists have of Iraq (or of anything for that matter). See, those goat-herders are just like Indians: you kill their chief and they run away. Reality is, of course, that a great many different factions, groups or people want the US out. It's even possible that the location of these symbols was known for a while and that the PR dictated the time of the operation: cute private Ryan is home, Saddam's sons are dead. We win. Etc...
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 10:53 AM
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8. Remebmer when AWOL ...
said that the 9/11 attacks have strengthen our resolve.

What the FUCK do you think this will do to the Iraqis. It will strengthen their resolve. Is their resolve any less powerful than ours ? No, in fact since they have the weaker military, and their backs are against the wall. Their resolve will lead them toward non conventional means (think Minutemen of the Revolutionary war).v This is no diofferent.

I agree that most people in Iraq would like nothing better than to get rid of Saddam, and his sons. They also agree that it should not be the US military who does it.

Cheers
Drifter
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 09:32 AM
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7. their deaths bring the radical imams in the Shi'a south
that much closer to achieving their goal of controlling Iraq.

Not that it's a bad thing the two sons are gone. But paradoxically, the greater our success in eliminating the Saddam regime, the more impatient the Iraqis will be for us to leave (thank you, now go home). As we show no signs of leaving, resentment will grow and the imams--the only non-Baath voice in Iraq that's making itself heard--will reap the benefit of popular anger.
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