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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 12:56 PM Original message |
Why IT Jobs Are Indeed OUR Jobs |
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zoidberg (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Please try again |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Corporations are evil |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. yeah... they are all paid up and don't owe anybody NOTHING |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. no, you are wrong |
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zoidberg (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. So why let corporations form at all? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. When corporations become parasites..... |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. That is the definition is socialism |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. "we are truly moving toward an American serfdom state" |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. what exactly is my ultimate goal? |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. No Sir, You Are Wrong |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'd be in favor of a tax policy on corporations ... |
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Brian Sweat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Hell, til recently that is how I thought that corporate tax policy worked. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. What is so special about IT jobs? |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I agree with you, but...... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Agreement here |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I think I should have stated that better.... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. See 22, I agree with that post |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. I agree on that completely..... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Touche |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. agreed, solidarity between IT and industrial workers |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. other than following the same pattern as other industries, NOTHING |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Thank You |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Wrong |
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monkeyboy (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Problem is... |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Breaking News |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. yeah... they have paid their debt to society! |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. They're not "our" jobs |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. So long as our tax money is going to subsidise those corporations, |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 04:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I disagree |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 03:42 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Bad analogy |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:36 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Not a bad analogy |
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Aaron (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 03:51 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Corporate personhood is a subsidy - arguably (n/t) |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:38 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. *Bingo* |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:42 AM Response to Reply #61 |
80. of course you do... though it doesn't make you RIGHT |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
79. bullshit LABOR comes BEFORE everything else |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. No, You're Wrong |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Nope, I'm right |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Your compassion |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Compassion |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. It also doesn't justifly driving down wages for profit |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Breaking news!!! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Well then maybe we should nationalize the economy |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Good luck.... |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. May I Ask, What Do You Do For A Living? |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I'm a computer programming |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. What Are You Going To Do When Your Job Disappears? |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. My parents are dead |
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Tigermoose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Death is inevitable. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 04:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. My parents are dead as well |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 04:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Excuse me? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. Why stop with just IT? |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. exactly! the people built and SACRIFICED a great deal in countless |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. If U.S. Tax Payer Money Is Used For The Development |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Jingoistic |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It's Not Jingoistic |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. You are clueless |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. you said that nederland, he didn't |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Yes he did |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. how about a straightforward interpretation? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Ok |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 04:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Hey Nederland |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:17 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. It is racist |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 04:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. I don't want to play your word games |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
74. Let's get this straight |
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Abaques (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. Its not that simple... |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. May I Ask You Something |
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Abaques (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 02:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Haha, computer science |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. If You're Serious, then |
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Abaques (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Thanks for making me feel better.... |
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Riptide (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Good luck! |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. If we did away with corporations all of our IT problems |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-23-03 04:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. typical 'extremist' strawman thrown out by the right |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
67. US taxpayers pay only for the US part of the net |
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Tigermoose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 07:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Or Inter(nal) Net(work)? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:50 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. look up the history of the internet |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 09:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Let Me Be Clear |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. They do |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
68. "our" means all 6 billion people |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Agreed |
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Sushi_lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
70. many issues here: corporations, nationalism, capitalism |
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Woodstock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-24-03 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
76. Outsourcing of state and local government jobs are next |
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