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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 01:13 PM
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What is wrong with California Democrats?
:grr: As if we don't have enough problems I pick up these two items in the LA Times today:

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Indecent Exposure

California's Legislature never seems to run out of inventive new ways to look bad in the eyes of voters.

Democrats, it appears, will soon bow to anti-tax Republicans and pass a state budget that avoids tax increases by making deeper cuts and pushing debt over to future years. That gloomy prospect is what prompted 11 liberal Assembly Democrats to discuss Monday whether to try to kill or delay the deal and precipitate a real budget crisis. The idea was to show people what great pain would ensue and heap blame on the GOP. A terrible idea, known to one and all because an open microphone allowed the huddle to be broadcast all over the Capitol. A longer budget delay, they said, might also help a Democratic-backed ballot initiative that would allow a budget to be passed by 55% of the Legislature instead of the current two-thirds.

Politicians are by nature tactical creatures, but hurting thousands of people to make a political point is completely off the tracks. Infuriating Democrats, Republicans gleefully distributed transcripts, but they should dampen their gloating. Does anyone believe their private discussions are much different, or that they don't include discussion of, say, how the budget disaster is a big boost in their efforts to recall Gov. Gray Davis? Their mulish stand against any tax increase is also why the state now is in its 23rd day without a budget. The two-thirds vote requirement is what has permitted them to defeat at least three versions of a 2003-04 budget and launch state government into a slow shutdown.<snip>

more...http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-spend23jul23,1,5392662.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials

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Budget Fight Leads to Face-Off

SACRAMENTO — Tension over California's unresolved budget came to a boil Tuesday when a top state official confronted another and delivered a public lambasting, saying extremist politicians are bringing state government to the brink of financial disaster.

As a stunned capital press corps looked on, state Finance Director Steve Peace confronted Assembly GOP budget chief John Campbell in a crowded Capitol hallway, accusing him of partisanship that could damage the state for years.

"On a personal level as a citizen I am embarrassed," a seething Peace said moments after demanding that Campbell and others stop making speeches and start putting up their votes. "The members of the Legislature ought to be embarrassed.... I've watched this place deteriorate over 20 years to rank extremism. And that's why we are in a budget deadlock." <snip>

more...http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-budget23jul23,1,3750433.story?coll=la-home-headlines

I am at a loss. Democrats control the state government in California from the Govenor, to the Senate and the Assembly, so why are the Republican minority making asses of us evertime our legislators turn around?
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 01:34 PM
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1. No Californians interested in discussing the mess
in Sacramento?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:15 PM
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4. What's to discuss?
Just another bash California/Californian's thread. Wake me us wehn you've got something new. <yawn>
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:21 PM
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5. Excuse me darling.
No bash here. As a fellow Californian, and person of small means, the little I have to lose with what is going on is a lot to me. I think we have a serious problem when our elected Democratic officials allow the Republicans to bully and destroy our state when THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER. I worry because the next homeless people you see on the street may be my husband and me. This is no laughing matter to us. I hope you can put us up.
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:01 PM
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2. there is no excuse..
they really screwed themselves here...With all the trouble in CA, this is the last thing we need. I'm sure the pukes will use this to push the anti Davis sentiment into a more broad, anti democrat sentiment...uuugh
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:55 PM
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3. It's getting bad I think and even our relatively liberal
press can't seem to inject the voice of reason and common sense into the fever the Republican's have to take over. It's like they think they have a mandate to take California. If they do then I fear it is good-by democracy in America.
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