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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 03:58 PM
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Help me understand the feelings of the average Repug re Iraq !
Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 04:01 PM by Hoppin_Mad
At the beginning of the Iraq war, I read many comments to the effect that we should " Nuke them back into the stone age ". The Right wanted to kill as many as possible, since Iraqis were the enemy. The scorn I read directed towards Muslims and Iraqis was unfathomable.

Considering their feelings for Muslims, Iraqis, and Middle Easterners, does the average Repuke really care about freeing the Iraqi people, and things like the fact that Saddam gassed his own people ?

Do they REALLY feel the price of one dead American per day, and a Billion dollars a week is worth paying for a people they don't give a shit about ?

Help me glimpse into the mind of the average Freeper / Wingnut/ Repug . . .they might parrot these pathetic Rove talking points of the war, now that it has been proven Iraq was no imminent threat . . but the Repubs really don't BELIEVE them - DO THEY ?

Are they actually mindless brainwashed slaves to these Repuknigan Rovian ploys, or deep-down do they know what a crock of shit they're being fed - but are too partisan to admit it ?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:08 PM
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1. YES they do (believe the garbage)
Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 04:10 PM by sparosnare
From a Co-Worker Repug:
"Terrorists will take over the United States and destroy everything we have if we don't get them first. Invading Iraq was an appropriate first step and we must continue to teach those "countries over there" a lesson by controlling them. We must show the rest of the world we are in charge, including Europe. We don't need their approval to take care of our own back yard."

Not his words exactly, but you get the idea. It's the bully mentality - we're the good guys, they're the bad guys (all those brown-skinned folk)and we have to go get 'em regardless of who dies.
Uggh.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:09 PM
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2. to be honest
i think your average bush/repub fan doesn't pay that much to what is actually happening, just what they think is happening. They believe that bush is an honorable man and he is a man of god so he is on their side and is working for them and the lord. i don't think that they realise the corruption that is our government. they only thing they are lead to believe by their leaders is that the 'whiney liberals' want to give your money away and screw you over, so it is easy for them to believe that these liberals never tell the truth and anything they say 'bad' about the pResident is about politics and not about truth. it is ashame they cling to the teat that feeds them lies.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:11 PM
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3. Its too much testosterone.
They wanted to taste blood and they would swallow any excuse to get it.

Folks who have never cared about human rights, now use it as their excuse. But they are still just as dismissive of the Iraqis themselves as ever. They do not see the Iraqi people as being on the same level of humanity.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:14 PM
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4. My impression
Edited on Wed Jul-23-03 04:15 PM by proud patriot
"We are Bad We can Kick the Worlds butt if we want ,
we don't need a good reason , just cause we can is good enough"

or

"We must kick butt to be safe, we need to show everyone who's boss"

"Who the F*ck gives a shit about anybody but us"

(opinnions stated above are not mine but those of freepers)
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:15 PM
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5. I agree.
I some times visit an electronics repair web site. They have "a shoot the bull" section. I see guys routinely call for nuking all arab people. I thought one time I might try to make a little sense.It was a waste of time. The thought of 2 nuclear war heads causing a nuclear winter went over their heads. Most of them think the 9-11 hi-jackers came from Iraq.
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:20 PM
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6. The average Republican that supports the war. . .
believes that Saddam Hussein was a problem that was going to have to be dealt with, whether now or later. They believe that it would have been more dangerous to wait. They also believe that stability in the middle east is in the vital national interest of the U.S. and therefore it is unfortunately necessary to live with both the human and fiscal costs of attempting to assure that a stable regime rules Iraq in the long run
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Hanuman Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:30 PM
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7. Thank you!
For a less vitriolic, more realistic appraisal of the republican position. I am in a position of knowledge here seeing as I tend to agree with a certain amount of conservative thinking on the Iraq issue.

This is not a "racist" agenda, or a "screw Europe" agenda or a "steal the oil" agenda- it REALLY is about security in America. About destroying WMD in Iraq and regime change for failure to follow the UN mandates.

Republicans believe that the US should use its military force to achieve these goals.

Whether there really were WMDs in Iraq is troubling to most republicans, because they believed they were there.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:18 PM
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9. How can the Repugs justify dead Americans and $1B a week
"it REALLY is about security in America. About destroying WMD in Iraq and regime change for failure to follow the UN mandates.
Republicans believe that the US should use its military force to achieve these goals.

Whether there really were WMDs in Iraq is troubling to most republicans, because they believed they were there."


When there are no nukes - no WOMD have been found - and if any ARE found - they were not a threat to the US - plus the Repugs GAVE them to Saddam in the first place - and Bush ordered the inspectors who were looking for them to leave ?
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Hanuman Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 06:38 PM
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10. You asked me to explain the thinking-
Not to justify it.
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Phoenixtongueof fire Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:33 PM
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8. Maybe the article on Bush in this week's Newsweek.............
might give a clue.
The people in America's Heartland like George W. Bush because he is a regular guy, A "good ole Boy". That seems to be his popular support. His vulnerability is the fact that he really doesn't care a whole lot about the regular people. If he doesn't care about the regular people of his own country, why should he give a rat's ass about the cockroaches in the third world?
So if people know that their glorious leader doesn't care about the "little brown people" why should they? So their mentally is "Kill them all, let God sort it out."

God forbid that any repug should ever "Think" on his or her own.
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