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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:45 PM
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The Son of a Mill Worker vs The Son of a President
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 10:30 AM by Skinner
Edwards is making a great case about "main street values" vs. the warped values of the Fraud. I read in another article about the opening of his office in South Carolina - that that is becoming one of his bigbest applause lines.

Hard work versus accumulated wealth.
Self-reliance versus privilege.

Another good line (paraphrase): "It's in all Americans' interest that the guy next to him his doing well."

Edwards has the ideas and appeal to make that happen.

http://www.heraldonline.com/local/story/2717885p-2519997c.html
By Jason Foster The Herald
(Published July 23‚ 2003)

Challenging the Bush administration on everything from taxes to unemployment to education and homeland security, Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards told supporters in Rock Hill on Tuesday he would be a president in touch with the American people.

After opening the South Carolina headquarters for his presidential campaign in Columbia, Edwards made a swing through Rock Hill to meet with local Democrats and make an early play for votes.

-snip-

"I don't think President Bush's values are our values. They're certainly not the values I grew up with," the North Carolina senator told a few dozen supporters gathered at the Rock Hill Arts Council building on Main Street.

Edwards, a native of Seneca and the son of a mill worker, said Bush values wealth over work, thereby ignoring the majority of Americans.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

-snip-

www.johnedwards2004.com

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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:46 PM
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1. won't ever pick up the momentum
I like him a bit, mind you, not my main candidate by a longshot, but think he would make a great VP. He doesn't have the momentum now, and he won't pick it up quick enough either with the base or with the inside the beltway folks to make it happen. Edwards for VP is much more likely, and appealing.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:55 PM
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2. Yeah. Dean/Edwards.
Then Edwards gets his shot in eight years. Sorry Hill.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:56 PM
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3. that's my thought
Dean/Edwards, Kerry/Edwards, whomever/Edwards, he'll still have the charisma and the looks in 8 years:)
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 04:58 PM
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4. Edwards would have to go at the top of that ticket.
But I think Edwards/Clark is MONEY.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:48 AM
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24. chimpymustgo
Per DU copyright rules
please post only 4
paragraphs from the
news source.

Thank you.

NYer99
DU Moderator
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:13 AM
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25. Edwards can't go at the top of the ticket
see my post above, he doesn't have the support from the base or from the inside the beltway dems, and he won't pick it up in time for the primaries. He hasn't been around long enough to win DLC/DNC support, and he sure as hell isn't the favorite of the voters who will vote in the primaries (look at what happened in moveon, he didn't even make the vote, he doesn't resonate with activists). Just trying to be realistic here, like I said, I like the guy, but he's no prez this year, definite VP. Just like Clark, sorry, but that guy will never be on the ticket at the top, a VP slot would me WAY more likely IMHO.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:00 PM
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5. That little DLC warmonger doesn't have a chance
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:05 PM
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6. LOL - time will tell. And you'll feel great voting for him.
Edwards is a terrific candidate, and as more folks see and hear him, they will realize the appeal of his ideas and his message. I think that's what he has going for him - the big tent. He will have support from DLC, DNC, lots of SWING votes, and peel off some Republicans.

I love his optimism.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:15 PM
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8. Edwards
People always seem so concerned with swing voters...what about the majority of people who do not vofe at all because they believe that both parties are only about helping the powerful at the expense of the powerless?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:18 PM
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9. No, I won't have to vote for him
Haven't you taken a gander at the many presidential polls here at DU? He hardly registers! lol

Over a year ago, I stated that I would do everything in my power to campaign against that warmongering DINO, but as it is, it doesn't look like I will have to work too hard.

Hell, the majority of his constinuents won't vote for him, including my born and bred father.

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:56 PM
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11. Uh, DU hardly reflects the real world. And it's JULY!
Edwards has plenty of money, plenty of talent, plenty of time.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:59 PM
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12. It also means
there is plenty of time for Justice for All and NOW to combat his run. And they represent a HUGE voting bloc.
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CafeToad Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:20 PM
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10. Yeah, if I want a warmonger in office
I'll vote for the real thing - A Republican!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:40 PM
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20. DLC Warmonger?
That's pretty pathetic. Back it up.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:25 AM
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23. D. Broder (I believe) had an article saying DLC doesn't like Edwards
because he doesn't vote with DLC on their "free" trade issues -- he likes to protect NC blue collar workers too much for the DLC's taste.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:51 AM
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27. Edwards voted against corporate trade agreements?
Know a link where I can get his record. Maybe I should put him back in my good or undecided column.

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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 05:11 PM
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7. and who was the last non-southerner to actually win ?
JFK. And he was a fluke.

Edwards IS the man and there is all the time in the world for momentum. Dean had to go out early or disappear altogether.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:25 PM
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17. Edwards will start building Mo in August, and will be on fire by October.
Geez, you really don't want to peak in July.
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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 09:43 AM
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26. no kidding
Dean is already out of things to say because he was perforce required to get out front of the people too early due to his lack of a national presence. He's got nowhere to go but down.

Kerry blundered some by trying to follow Dean. May have had to as two dems from the same area (NE) will only tend to muddle things.

I tend to think that Edwards will wait till September or so as people are still on vacation in August. But just prior to BAck to School is a pretty good time to start talking about education. We'll see.

Should be an interesting autum.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 06:02 PM
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13. I like Edwards
He would make a great nominee. Let's hope for the sake of the country that someone like him or Kerry, the ones that are the most electable, are the candidate rather than Dean, who I fear will lose in Dukakis-like proportions.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 06:24 PM
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15. Quinnox, there's a great thread in Politics about Dean. MUST READ.
"Dean and the Tempting of the Democrats".

It spells the whole deal out explicitly and expertly. Of course it is being summarily dismissed by Dean supporters.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 06:37 PM
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16. Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out
n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 06:04 PM
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14. Will he get us out of Iraq and stop trickledown economics?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 07:29 PM
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18. Edwards worked his way from the bottom up...
unlike Bush!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:39 PM
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19. Edwards is the anti-Bush. (I said it before and I'll say it again).
It's such a beautiful match-up.

Values.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-03 08:45 PM
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21. Gephardt and Kucinich also come from blue-collar families.

Kucinich's large family was poor enough to have to live in cars at times. I don't know about the other Dems except that Dean was raised with money.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:55 AM
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22. Edwards OPTIMISM - everybody should have a chance.
He has tailored his message to reach out to people from that background. He wants to help create an America where everyone has a chance to succeed.
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