Slick Willy (AKA Big Dawg) smacks the GOP in the face AGAIN

And this time he did it so slyly, so underhanded, that he even fooled a pretty good percentage of the people on the left.

Lets examine a few things shall we?

Clinton said, and I'm paraphrasing, "Presidents make mistakes and we should just move on."

Why you may ask would President Clinton do such a thing? First off, think about the term "move on."

When was moveon.org founded? Right in the middle of the Lewinsky scandal! Millions of left-leaning people were saying, "What's the big deal? People make mistakes! Lets move on!"

Did the right-leaning people move on? Oh no, in fact they made it even worse and impeached Clinton on nothing but a blow job. They didn't have the class or the integrity to just move on. They were, quite incredibly, complete whining crybabies who obviously had never done anything remotely kinky in their entire lives!

So now, when Bush is at his most vulnerable the Big Dawg shocks the whole friggin world by saying lets move on, no biggie! What does this mean?

I'll tell you what it means. It means that not only do the Repugs have a weak case, now the only line of defense they have left is to use a CLINTON QUOTE TO DEFEND BUSH. It's absolutely the most hilarious thing EVER. The same people who spent years tearing down Clinton's reputation are now forced to use him as their knight in shining armor! They're rebuilding Clintons image and looking like idiots for doing it at the same time!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... did anyone see Novak get his head chopped off on Crossfire today when he used the Clinton quote?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.........

I can't believe Ann Coulter gets asked about it!!!!

Its a little twisted, but they (repugs)are screwed with him saying that.

It's like a wet dream watching all of these Rethugs forced to use Clinton as their defender. LOL

are ...ahem...ah...overly refreshed?

Genious I tell you! Genious!!!

...unless you know how to spell it.

- I've never seen so much excuse-making and rationalization in such a short period of time. Clinton sold out the Democratic party and those brave Dems trying to bring the Bushies to justice.

because you must be if you can't see what is going on.

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Sorry, don't take kindly to smart asses with dictionaries on hand.

:-)

"Can you spell STFU?"

good one :toast:

peace
btw: i think my post above - unamed - got mixed up with yours ;->

of having the GOP quote Clinton makes them look incredibly hypocritical and ridiculous? BTW, his own wife supports an investigation.

lol

He merely pointed out the American people don't identify with Uranium sales in Africa the way they do watching their retirement evaporate or being out of a job. Not really that hard of a concept to grasp. Or at least is shouldn't be.

Bill Clinton is much too shrewd to give in to them.

Brilliant!

The rethugs have to AGREE with Clinton.

Beautiful! It must twist their stomach in knots!!!

OMG, its the single most amazing thing Clinton has done in the last two years. Overnight he RUINED the entire GOP message of anti-Clintonism and the Rethugs look HORRIBLE using him.

Ok, so he makes his own ass look better, WHO GIVES A CARE IN THE WORLD about that now...he puts Bush's lies together with his, and now makes Bush's seem less important...

This is about more than making Clinton look better...who cares about what the GOP did at this point and how stupid it was, BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED...this is VERY IMPORTANT....and his statement REALLY pisses me off, because he's taking the time to make his own ass look better instead of realizing that this is about more than that!!

lie about sex. Let people compare the gravity of both presidents actions. Remember, nobody died when Clinton lied.

Clinton has burned the Repugs so many times they are probably gloating on the outside, but twisted up in knots on the inside wondering what scam is he running on them this time.

I'll tell you what it means. It means that not only do the Repugs have a weak case, now the only line of defense they have left is to use a CLINTON QUOTE TO DEFEND BUSH. It's absolutely the most hilarious thing EVER. The same people who spent years tearing down Clinton's reputation are now forced to use him as their knight in shining armor! They're rebuilding Clintons image and looking like idiots for doing it at the same time!

I couldn't have said it better myself! The subtle brilliance of this seems to have escaped a lot of people. All this does is make the GOP look ridiculous, and it will not affect the investigation one iota.

Problem is...it's way too subtle for the sheeple to get.

:-)

BRILLIANT! :bounce:

peace

You'll see the Virgin Mary.

:)

;-)

He'd sell her out too.

"Mary, you're lovely but I must declare that you're not the right kind of leftist for the Democratic party"

Any Democrat who refuses to move on will look like he's anti-establishment.

Plus, any anti-Clinton heartlander must be as confused as the dog forced to choose between two delicious bones.

Do I agree with Clinton? How can I agree with Clinton? Clinton must be trying to cover up something!

Eric (from fantasyland)

It is a code that Clinton was conveying to us all.

what comes of it..?

I'm not one of those who thinks Bill Clinton is god, but One thing he has is fantastic political instincts. He is absolutely NOT the one who should be leading the charge against Bush for lies, etc. He is too big a target. This should not be a game of: "well, HE's one to talk about lying in the White House!"

Clinton has no credibility in the deep south and midwest. The right wing pundits will look like fools using his soft let-handed defense on nationwide television. They can't use him. Many people see Clinton as evil and dirty and sleazy and a murderer.

Clinton may not have said "Bush is a stinking death-worshipping tool of Satan!" He did keep the story alive, and Clinton has once again taken some headline space... this time away from the deaths of Castor and Pollux.

Eric

Clinton "leading the charge" would make it "the attack Clinton" story 24/7.

Hey, now that he agrees with them, the rethugs are pretty much in a box. What to do? Agree with (gasp!) Clinton? Or...don't agree with "moving on"!

I think it's hilarious!

Now the rethugs are weaponless and pathetic. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

but at least your consistent :evilgrin:

peace

if they say move on. This is much more serious than Monica.

He made a fool of himself no matter how much you desperately want it otherwise. His days are numbered - you will be hearing less and less of him from here on in.

Clinton is still a necessary force in world politics. As an added bonus, he is no longer in a position to compromise the country to death.

I think on the international stage he could be as invaluable an asset as Carter...

I can understand the frustration, but Clinton is not running for President. And the EASIEST thing in the world for a Dean or a Clark or a Kucinich to do is disagree with Clinton and say "NO, I WILL NOT MOVE ON!" How does this damage the left?

Eric

My wife and I were just discussing this....she pointed out that Clinton is a pretty shrewd politician. I agree.

I think he just zinged the rethugs big time.

There is nothing they hate more then Clinton. Except, of course, actually having to agree with him....

Hillary Clinton has been progressively moving stealth-like towards the Right, and I have seen a number of neo-con pundits remark on this approvingly. That does not, however. prevent, or even put a dent in the sport of Clinton-bashing. It doesn't matter what they do or say.

Yeah, Hillary is a right-wing conspiracy.

that BC did it over the phone so there's no video record of him saying it. now that's shrewd.

Hadn't thought of that before, even more amazing!

do you think that maybe BC was just not trying to politicize Bob Doles gig on LKL?

repeat after me - clinton is god, clinton is god.....

Go vote for Bush now.

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Where you can spend all day pontificating about who terrible America is and how Ralph Nader is god?

Clinton signalled to the media to drop the discussion of the uranium, and move on. I think a lot of media will do exactly that.

In addition, I think this boost of Bush was on purpose, to allow his wife a free shot at the presidency in 2008, by heloing Bush to get re-elected in 04.

I think all these results were thought out and intentional.

Keeping in mind that Clinton's audience is not the far RW, never has been never will be.

He juxtaposes, in one sentence, his "mistake" (getting a blowjob and lying about it) with Smirk's mistake--lying to start an unnecessary war.

Implicitly, the conclusion has to be drawn that way. Who would listen anyway if Clinton bashed Smirk openly? Nobody.

This way, the immaterial mistake which caused impeachment is set up next to the godawful lie used to start an unnecessary war.

My two cents anyway. but I'm prejudiced...I've always liked him.

...intelligence "mistakes".

IS there anything as sweet as the Republicans looking for Bill's approval to save them?

I was just laughing with a roommate (Who is a former Repug) about it. He was simply stunned at the manipulative, evil, simple side of what Clinton did.

He maybe takes some joy in another presidents truthfulness being called into question and may even be gleeful that he can proclaim that the country should just "move on", but the bottomline is that he undercut the democrats who have been brave enough to take Bush to task about his untruthfulness which helped result in a war where thousands of people died and a situation where our troops are sitting ducks in Iraq being preyed upon by snipers. We need to get to the bottom of what the Bush administration knew and didn't know regarding the evidence regarding Iraq. An investigation is called for--there is enough evidence to support one. Clinton made a fool of himself with his comments. He should have said that he didn't know what to make of Bush's comments--if it was an innocent mistake or a calculated lie--perhaps a congressional investigation into the matter would clear it up. I wonder what President Gore's response would have been?

Always has been, always will. Everyone needs to realize that Clinton has never been simple. He's a political juggernaut. By taking the Republicans greatest weapon away, he's left them defenseless.

as I posted in the other thread,

Clinton needs to justify his repeated bombing of Iraq and direct killing of civilians as well as maintaining the sanctions that killed at least 500,000 (mostly ) children.

Its the part where he says Presidents make mistakes. So far, this has been played by everyway imaginable by the right wing, except as Bush's fault. For them to use this, they first have to admit that it was Bush's mistake in the first place, not some admin staffer's fault.

But that whole "move on" shit is the part that disgusts me. Hell fucking no! He lied to start a war.... A WAR!!!!!!

This stuff isn't just going away, and Clinton knows it.

I was a little depressed last night and most of the day I've been away from the puter (mom had knee surgery), but I had time to think and I feel much better after reading your post. President Clinton is too brilliant to sell out the Democratic party and I refuse to believe that he doesn't want a Dem to win so that Sen. Hillary could run in 2008. Refuse to believe it!

Don't believe the hype, this takes the big weapon away from the right. What cracks me up is that with Iraq-Gate, Novac-CIA Gate, 1 day in Iraq, etc.... that this would just go away.

Nonsense! Clinton just took away Rove's biggest weapon. Himself.

just like when the freeks twist and turn and try to justify *'s words when he's said something downright stupid.

That some people have gone so far over the edge that they'll start comparing Clinton to Bush.