What would the media do if a DEM said: "I hope all Southern Baptists die"

In the context of a "funny joke" of course, like Jebs smear.

Do you think the media would write it off as "all in good fun"...

The media is going to give Jeb a pass for his hate speech- would they do the same for us? Of course not.

I hope all Southern Baptsits die! Especially my good friends who are Southern Baptists. And my former Physics teacher. Yeah, I hope she dies! All those Southern Baptists keep electing Republicans to TX government, so I hope they die. HAHA! HAHA! And Jimmy Carter too!

I'd guess that they won't even notice that I said it.

However, if a Dem Senator said this, he/she would probably be crucified, and most of the Baptists would never be able to find the irony.

Of course, I'm only kidding, just like Jeb!!!!

It's all in "good fun"- right, Bush/media????

nt

pardon my language

here's what that slimeball said:


http://www.sptimes.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/APState.woa/wa/story?id=FL_Bush_San_Francisco

Associated Press, November 12, 2003 - 04:31 PM

TALLAHASSEE, Fla.

Gov. Jeb Bush joked during a Florida Cabinet meeting Wednesday that the people of San Francisco may be endangered and, "That's probably good news for the country."

The subject was environmental land and Bush was looking at a map of showing locations with a lot of different wildlife at the time.

"It looks like the people of San Francisco are an endangered species, which may not be a bad thing. That's probably good news for the country."

People in the room broke into laughter

"Did I just say that out loud?" the governor asked.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=215875

the people in San Fransisco are an endangered species and that is probably good news for the country.

Why did he say it? Was it because of the liberals in the city or was it because of the many homosexuals who live there? Was it a reference to AIDS? I take huge offense to that.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/11/13/state0340EST0012.DTL

were an endangered species? Some would accuse Jeb of being antisemititc because NYC is so identified as a very Jewish city, but it's OK to slander San Francisco!

I like SF better than Florida. As far as I'm concerned Florida can fall off the coast and we can give Texas back to the Mexicans.

I'm a former resident of San Francisco.

I do feel this is hate speech.

See, in W's America, it's perfectly fine to berate, harass and even threaten murder against liberals. If however, you should say anything slightly off-kilter about rightwingers, well, then, my friend, you have crossed the line of decency and of course a marathon bitch-and-moan session will ensue over the hate radio and corporate airwaves.

What a pair of hypocrites.

This is pResident Wankerbushs' America! Where one can make threatening sounds toward the state department, if your name is Pat Robinson. PRAISE! You can even "pray" for various SCOTUS deaths and all sorts of bad stuff if you have the same group affiliations with Pat! PRAISE! You can make threatening sounds toward liberals, if your name is Ann Coulter! You can out CIA agents and get by with it! AND If you're name is Bush, Jeb Bush, you can even have a go at SanFrancisco!

pResidentWankerbush and his version of America. Excuse me while I puke.

That group is the biggest bunch of "Do as I say, not as I do!" types I have ever seen. It goes through all levels of thier sect. DISGUSTING!!!

I have to tell you though, after some days driving around Dallas, I can't totally disagree with the "I hope all Southern Baptists die" sentiment. Those ones, specifically, cheese me off pretty bad. The only other group of folks I pretty much want to throttle on sight more than the Southern Baptists are pro-lifers. And in a lot of cases I'd be killing two birds with one stone on that one.

And then I get home and throw in the Jon Stewart tape from the week and I feel a little better.

RANT now endith!

"I have to tell you though, after some days driving around Dallas, I can't totally disagree with the "I hope all Southern Baptists die" sentiment. Those ones, specifically, cheese me off pretty bad. The only other group of folks I pretty much want to throttle on sight more than the Southern Baptists are pro-lifers. And in a lot of cases I'd be killing two birds with one stone on that one"?

Because that is as bigoted a remark as I have ever heard falling from the likes of David Duke or Al Sharpton. There are, you know, moderate Southern Baptists http://www.layman.org/layman/news/news-around-church/s-baptist-group-joins-ncc.htm

And even the conservative ones don't deserve to die.

Just some days the stuff I see makes me so mad, I just want to spit. I have lived in Texas all my life and have NEVER seen a group (not all Southern Baptists, just the loud hateful ones) more horrid and holier than thou. It has been my experience that the loudest ones are usually the ones that are the most hateful and dangerous to other's freedoms and rights. Too damn many of them want to mind MY business and not their own. There are extremists in every group of anything (radical vegetarians come to mind).

I have been personally accosted by more Southern Baptists trying to save me or telling me I am going straight to hell than I care to remember with any detail. If you have the same group of people bugging you over and over again long enough telling you that you are a sinner and that you are going to roast in hell, you would develop a bit of a seething distaste for that group.

Bigoted? A bit. Prejudiced? Somewhat. But these kinds of impressions come from somewhere. And any group that would make hatred of gays and Jews part of their operating platform isn't going to get a whole lot of sympathy from me. As a Jew, I do not want to be converted. As a person with many gay friends, I know they don't want to be converted. And even the conservative ones don't deserve to die. I can imagine that at least a few of them wouldn't shed a tear if all the gays and Jews in the world all dropped dead one day.

So say what you like about "moderate" Southern Baptists... It is the loudmouthed radical ones that make any of the reasonable ones look bad.

he was going to kill anyone. If you don't like their trying to convert you, do what I do, tell them you aren't interested. works for Mormons, works for Jehovah's witnesses, and it works for Baptists too. Then forget it.

Criminy. I don't mean this as personal to you, so please don't take it this way. there is on this board, and out in the world, for that matter, a whole lot more sensitivity than is good for our mental health. Everybody, left and right, is eager to be offended. Remarks that are not meant in malice are caught and run with. I just think everybody should chill out a little. Since I have learned to do it, my life has been a whole lot more pleasant.

I try really hard to stay out of these types of things. I generally work on the premise of "Thall shalt not bug thy neighbor."

Problem is that I get screwed with ALL THE TIME!!!
I have a

on my car that has been vandalized.

I have a

doormat that has been stolen off my doorstep.

So if I've developed a bit of a sensitivity to this kinda of stuff I feel it is somewhat justified. I have dealt with the door-to-door types you mentioned and you are correct, they repectfully leave if you tell them you are not interested. I have lost several friends of many years after they found the Southern Baptist version of Jesus because they felt they couldn't be friends anymore with anyone they knew they wouldn't see in heaven.

and I am really sorry about it. But does that make it OK for you to indulge in bigotry?? I don't care myself, if you do. Hypocrisy is one of the more over-rated of sins, evils, faults, whatever, IMO, because their are so many flavors and levels of it. But still, it may mean something to you.

I trust your neighbors will be more respectful in the future.

Best wishes

You say Jeb did not advocate killing anyone.

Perhaps not, but endangered means "about to die"

I would love for him to clear it up. but since he is a republican, the GOD DAMNED MEDIA will not ask him.

Just which San Franciscans was he talking about? Naval Veterans? Gay folks? AIDS victims? Chinese and mexicam immigrants??

Just who was he talking about when he said there death would be a "good thing"????

I'll assume the worst until THE GOD DAMNED MEDIA asks him the ques5tion I just did.

I ASKED if he had done it. I couldn't find where he did. I don't pretend to know that he was joking; I don't pretend to know that he was not. But people do joke like that, including us progressives. I just think we should not leap to the worst conclusions. That is to say, I'm willing to cut my worst enemy a little slack, as long as they will let me. Why should I draw the line at Jeb, just becasue I have some political differences with him. I'm too lazy to waste my anger and energy on Bullshit trivia.

Which is what this is.

I hope all REPUBLICAN southern baptists become "endangered" and apparently DIE, that would be a "good thing"

WHHOPS!!! "Did I really say that?"

I advise it for others. so many people on this board are not. Something is funny when WE say it, but not when THEY say it. This is inconsistent, to say the least.

I frankly don't care what Jeb Bush says; I don't vote in Florida, but if I did, I wouldn't vote for him. what he does is much more important. But, as we have seen recently, hateful comments that get made on this board have a way of making it to FOX news and the American people.

What would happen if a Dem said that?

After all, all Southern Baptists will die. Eventually, anyway. Northern Baptists too. And the Catholics, Jews, 7th Dayers, Atheists, Buddhists, and Hindus as well.

Just one of those inavoidable side effects of life....

One of the fundies at my work rants about what a hideous hole SF is. One time when forced to go there on business, he stayed in his room the whole time, he was so disgusted by the place.

Man people can be such jerks!
I can't wait to move to San Francisco.
The faster I can get the hell hout of Texas, the better.
I only got 4 months left before my hubby graduates.
I would be PROUD PROUD PROUD to make SF my home.

"Let your freak flag fly!" That's my motto!

more power to ya, we can always use more Duers in te bay area!

:toast:

I will here officially "come out"...
I am GAY friendly and I don't care who knows it!!!
I'm here, I support queers, get used to it!

Seriously, we can't wait to move.
I would move there just for the weather alone.
I don't think I could stand one more Texas summer.

or maybe if you're lucky you'll get a day or two :)

out in the east bay is a different story

let us know when the time comes, we're always getting together when a DUer arrives!:toast::party:

I'll post a Good Riddance to bad Texas post in the lounge right before I power down my system to put it on the truck.

It would be gread to know some folks already when we get there. You guys can clue me in on all the good eats and hook my up with someplace that has a Kosher deli and bakery.

we're a friendly bunch of hippie commie pinkos! :evilgrin:

no plans to die.

Neil, that is

Shrub is the still the biggest

He'd say he meant the rabid liberals, too many would agree and would condone his remark.

Other statements he made didn't hurt him- there was his "evil plan" gaffe about the class size amendment and he said some racially devisive thing (I don't remember) DURING his last campaign. And ther WAS press on those.

The confounded tragedy is that someone like Jeb, who would foster such hate between people, ever made it to a position of leadership.

Pukes always have to find ways to slide their "code words" in every now and then to let their bigoted base vote know that in their heart of hearts, there's nothing they'd love to do more than join 'em for good old fashioned cross burnin' and Mein Kampf reading session, but they can't because of that goldarn librul media.

I would also like the GOD DAMNED MEDIA to ask Gov. Arnold what he thinks about all this.

I'm sure the "Liberal Media" wont do a GOD DAMNED THING though.

him out as presidential material.:puke:

'the cockroaches'. I *think* it was Jebbie. They were helping to run Poppy's campaign, and this remark had to do with the 'problem' that they HAD to cater to the Baptists and other fundies.

Of course, the media failed to cover the story at any depth.

Not only would they be excoriated repeatedly for MONTHS, by both Corporate TV Pravda and the Party-Loyal Right-Wing Sub-Media, but there would be death threats and of course an immediate apology.

For Jeb's comments...silence. Guaranteed. 100%.

Welcome to Orwellian, Soviet-style Amerika.

Would it be a good thing if Dallas, was vaporized by a meteor.

Sure I do.

Did I say that?

Jebbie is a rat-bastard and a smug one, too. Almost like they know it is an absolute impossibility for them to lose.

Now, why would they think that?

maybe a bumper sticker to that affect?

endangered sometimes means "about to die".

The media REFUSES to ask Jeb if that is what he means. If it okay to "joke" about an entire city being endangered, then its okay to make the same "joke" about Jeb's brother, right?

WHOOPS!!! Did I Really say that? Just kidding.

Thanks for keeping it in the forefront Dr. Fate. Is it possible that Jeb is an even bigger slime than his big brother?

...since it was Jeb BUSH, it has been written off as "good fun" and a "joke"...

You see, he is not the "racist" Howard Dean, so the GOD DAMNED MEDIA is "not allowed" to scrutinize his words...

should get raped in jail. Oops did I say that out loud, Jebbie?

if a liberal said such thing. Hell, Nina Totenberg has wished death upon people before and nary a peep was made.