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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:56 PM
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Repubs are whispering that they think this charade is a mistake..?
Don't you think that back in the corners and in the isolated rooms they are starting to question the strategy of this hare-brained idea? Who was responsible for putting their butts on the line? Was it Orin Hatch? He's been whining since the first time they were turned down. Could someone give him a lollipop and send him to his room?

Or was it the incompetent Leader, Bill Frist? Was he persuaded by FOX and other right-wingers that this was a good idea a PR masterpiece? As the debate progresses, it is becoming obvious to most people and the Repubs on the floor, that they are getting their butts kicked. i guess they must have thought no one would call them on their lies and distortions? Mark this down as the day the Repubs started their decline from power...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:58 PM
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1. the day the Repubs started their decline from power... From your post
to Gods ear and Will I pray!
AMEN
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:58 PM
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2. I think it is
On the substantive issue they will lose: the nominees will not be confirmed. Wishy washy swing voters are not paying attention or don't care, plus this whole affair slows down the Senate from taking care of other business that needs to get done before recess.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:59 PM
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3. How exactly is that going?
I haven't been paying attention to the 30-hour marathon, I don't have C-span or cable....How are we stacking up against the Repubs?
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:01 PM
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6. They have it on CSpan
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lysergik Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:02 PM
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7. The Dems keep trying to go back to business
Hillary tried to get the bill for extention of Unemployment benefits back on track and up for vote this morning to objections, of course.

Everyone has been trying to get this train wreck back on the rails and the repubs just keep whining.

I think Harry Reid needs to excuse himself and reenter the Senate wheeling in a big cart full of cheese for all of their whine.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:59 PM
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4. I think its a distraction from Smirky's IraqNam Quagmire
Things going badly in Iraq and jobless claims?

No problem. Start a 30 hour debate about how the Dems are holding up justice in America, sponsored and produced by Faux News.

That'll keep the RW rabble distracted and bitching about Dems while their fearless leader's righteous war adventure unravels.
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:32 PM
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32. If this is a distration, it will have to last for a few more months.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:20 PM
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39. No, just until Friday morning...
then comes the weekend news slump, when nobody's watching.

Then watch: Sunday night or Monday they'll cook up something new to distract the sheeple.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:00 PM
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5. What funded this was the money really
The hard core ideologues of the party said that if the Republicans don't pull this move, they are not going to send any money.

I would also say that the Republicans are TERRIBLY unprepared for this debate. TERRIBLY.

They didn't think that they would put up such a stiff resistance. Now, they have to spin things off, but they have no substance to spin it.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:04 PM
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8. I have been afraid the energy bill would come on the floor
this week and was so happy to hear about this timewaster delaying the energy vote. Only one more week to go until recess!

Plus, this timewaster is set up so that each side gets equal time to get heard. The rabid right always loses under equal time rules.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:05 PM
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9. Ma Nish Ta Na?
Why is this mistake any different from their other mistakes? They'll just lie, distort, and point the finger at us... and the media will swallow it up. Again.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:06 PM
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10. Oh geez
Republicans are calling Democrats hypocrites
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:06 PM
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11. Frist listened to Santorum
because Frist's an amateur. Let's call him...Senate Leader Pretend. :-)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:09 PM
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13. To de quite honest I get the feeling Delay is running the show in the hill
Hastert isn't even running his party in the House. He got the speakership because he likes chicken legs more than "leg". Remember Livingston had to resign just as he was about to be speaker (due to Larry Flynt exposing an affair he had).


I don't think Frist has it in the Senate either.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:14 PM
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37. Delay's been running the show for quite some time....
n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:15 PM
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30. Frist should go back to his live vivisection of kittens or devil worship
...whatever he was up to before he became the GOP embarassment in the Senate. Bill Frist is not a leader!
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:58 PM
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34. ...it's high time we razed the walls that they've constructed...
:hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:07 PM
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12. We''ll see but this is akin to Newt shutting down the govt.
That blew up their faces too.

They assumed that a forcefull move would frighten the Dems and make them look STRONG and DECISIVE. It didn't work, they came off as extremists and out of control.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:10 PM
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14. I put it in the DU calendar.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:11 PM
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15. Republicans are masters of the 30-second soundbite without
followup questions. Anything beyond that exposes the reality that they are not only wrong but also uninformed and immature.

Actually, I think 30 hours is going to be enough time to show that they are downright INSANE, too!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:13 PM
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16. Send in the squad of aproned matrons!
Sounds like it's time to send in the little old ladies in their house dresses and aprons so that the Senate Republicans can sit on their laps and blubber how "It's just not fair!" The ladies will pat their balding little pates and coo "There, there."

Bring in a case of cheese? I think a box of Pampers is more appropriate for this temper tantrum!
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:19 PM
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17. I thought that every Dem Senator should start their remarks ..
with the stats on how many judicial requests Clinton got during his eight years, and contrast it with Smirky's relatively easy time..

If every single Dem senator did this, it would be sure to make the AP and wires..It would be beautiful...it would guarantee that everyone see's the repug hypocrisy..
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:08 PM
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27. Exactly, Just Quote The Facts. 168 approved, 4 denied =98% approved
whine whine whine, cry cry cry

repukes are so predictably simple
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:25 PM
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18. Here is a comment I sent to our local paper, I hope they
print it. With Cheney in his undisclosed bunker,Bush on yet another fund raiser and our Republican senators wasting precious time, is it any wonder that the economy and Iraq are in turmoil?

I agree that the Repugs look really lame. This is not on people's radar screens, particularly since most of their nominees have been confirmed. They are so whiny, like children really. How sad that these bozos are running the ship of state.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:27 PM
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19. hold it, all previous judge nominations have recieved a vote?
can you say Ronnie White, boys and girls? or did I miss something?
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:43 PM
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21. I was surprised by that too
It must be some technical definition they're talking about, and frankly I'm not equipped to deny it. Perhaps someone here more knowledgeable than I am could help me out, here. How are they using the terminology to make that point?
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:58 PM
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24. Tim Johnson just helped me out
Six Clinton nominees for whom a 60 vote majority was required on the floor, and 63 filibusters of Clinton nominees in committee. I see how they can spin the 63, since they never even came up for a vote, but what about the other six? Is there some technicality they are using to claim they didn't filibuster or what?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 05:53 PM
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33. "I see how they can spin the 63"
???

After not even letting them out of committee onto the floor? I'd like to hear that spin. It's even more of a denial of an 'up or down vote'.

:shrug:
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:58 PM
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40. last night I heard the spin on this:
something like:

That's the past we're interested in the future - the future of America and what the American people deserve.

After that I think I lost consciousness...
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 07:13 PM
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41. Too many G's.
:silly:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:27 PM
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20. Here's a picture courtesy of Sen. Lautenberg
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:52 PM
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22. He was great
I loved watching his speech.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:54 PM
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23. I've been very impress with him
every time I've seen him interviewed too.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:02 PM
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25. Dick Durbin really impressed me last night
Very concise and straight to the point. Very no nonsense.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:11 PM
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28. Lautenberg came out of retirement to save the seat for the Dems
What a great guy!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:05 PM
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26. From a collective Stand point, the Sheep Pubs have allowed themselves too
much faith and now must pay the price of admitting. Its called, eating Crow.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:13 PM
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29. Lott is on now talking about ZERO filibusters in the Clinton years...
and then he mentioned that HE filed cloture motions to stop the filibusters. It seems both happened.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:22 PM
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31. When will we hear Senator Byrd today? Does anyone know when ....
the Senator will be speaking this afternoon. My guess Mr. Byrd is preparing himself well. And he'll take two 30 minutes segments.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:01 PM
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35. They didn't need to filibuster, they didn't let the nominees out of
the committee.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:09 PM
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36. Back in the old days, when they could put a "blue slip" on the nominees
anonymously. And the nominees never made it out of committee...A much worse method of filibustering than the present..
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:14 PM
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38. The date of the decline
was Sept 9th, 2003 that started the slide. That was the day Bu$h asked for the 87 Billion.

With the outrage over the cost of the war, the Dems found a vertebre. They still don't have a spine...but at least now they are starting.
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