Urgent Action! 9/11 Commish Cleland says "Bush Scamming America"

(forward - from a 9/11 activist...)

After the Kean Commission cut a deal Wednesday to restrict its own access to the White House documents, 9/11 Commissioner and former Sen. Max Cleland went on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to say:

"The 9-11 Commission DEAL with the White House on 9-11 documents is a SHAM, IT'S DISGUSTING, AMERICA IS BEING CHEATED."

The 9/11 Family Steering Committee has also objected to the deal (see article below).

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD ON THIS, AND CALL/FAX/EMAIL THE 9-11 COMMISSION
NOW AND RAISE HELL ABOUT THEIR CAVING IN TO BUSH.

Under the deal only 2 or 4 of the Commissioners will be able to view White House documents about what Bush knew of the coming attacks on 9-11. They can only take notes, and they must get White House approval before telling other commissioners what the notes say.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE. CALL THE 9-11 COMMISSION AND THANK MAX CLELAND FOR HIS
COURAGE AND INTEGRITY, AND COMPLAIN TO ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO DEMAND THAT "ALL" COMMISSIONERS GET TO VIEW WHITE HOUSE DOCUMENTS. DEMAND THAT THE 9-11 COMMISSION SUPENA WHITE HOUSE DOCUMENTS.

(SEE BELOW FOR ALL ADDRESSES)

ARTICLE TODAY IN SF CHRONICLE

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/11/13/national1458EST0674.DTL

Relatives of Sept. 11 victims criticize agreement between White House and commission

LAURENCE ARNOLD, Associated Press Writer

Thursday, November 13, 2003 (11-13) 14:14 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --

Relatives of people who perished in the Sept. 11 attacks say a federal commission accepted too many conditions in striking a deal with the White House over access to secret intelligence documents.

The Family Steering Committee, a group of victims' relatives who are monitoring the work of the independent commission, criticized the agreement announced late Wednesday. Under the deal, only some of the 10 commissioners will be allowed to examine classified intelligence documents, and their notes will be subject to White House review.

"All 10 commissioners should have full, unfettered and unrestricted access to all evidence," the group said in a statement Thursday. It urged the public release of "the full, official, and final written agreement."

Neither the commission nor the White House disclosed the terms of the agreement, although sources familiar with the commission's work described some of its provisions.

READ MORE:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/11/13/national1458EST0674.DTL

ACT NOW! THIS IS IT!

SEND TEN INDIVIDUAL EMAILS TO THE COMMISSION ADDRESSED INDIVIDUALLY TO EACH COMMISSIONER. FAX BOTH FAX NUMBERS BELOW WITH TEN FAXES ADDRESSED TO EACH COMMISSIONER, FOR A TOTAL OF TWENTY FAXES.

LET'S GIVE THEM A BLIZZARD OF OUTRAGE!! FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU CAN.

CALL:
Public Relations Person for the 9-11 Commission, Al Selzenberg: 202-401-1725
ALSO, CALL, FAX, EMAIL OTHER COMMISSIONERS:
Thomas H. Kean, Chair
Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chair
Richard Ben-Veniste
Max Cleland
Fred F. Fielding
Jamie S. Gorelick
Slade Gorton
John F. Lehman
Timothy J. Roemer
James R. Thompson

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407

Washington Office*
Tel: (202) 331-4060
Fax: (202) 296-5545 info@9-11Commission.gov

New York Office
Tel: (212) 264-1505
Fax: (212) 264-1595
info@9-11Commission.gov

there's nothing to hide, eh Monkey King? Sounds to me as though they have plenty to hide.

At this point LIHOP is right there for everyone to look at, yet the Bush Admin is still hiding stuff, which tells me it must be really fucking bad. I hope to God that justice prevails in this matter.

if you agree to a wear a blindfold while you oversee?

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

for real about getting to the bottom of everything...9/11 and Iraq.

Apparently at least four of the Commission members (among them Kean, Gorton, Ben-Veniste) think it's a great deal to be allowed to see only a couple of paragraphs per PDB ... Ben-Veniste is a close Clinton associate and Democratic bigwig.

The Democrats could be doing a LOT more on this! Go Roemer, Go Cleland!

New York Times, 11/14/03
Deal on 9/11 Briefings Lets White House Edit Papers
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/national/14TERR.html

By PHILIP SHENON

WASHINGTON, Nov. 13 — The commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror
attacks said on Thursday that its deal with the White House for access to
highly classified Oval Office intelligence reports would let the White House
edit the documents before they were released to the commission's
representatives.

The agreement, announced on Wednesday, has led to the first public split on the commission. Two Democrats on the 10-member panel say that the commission should have demanded full access to the intelligence summaries, known as the President's Daily Brief, and that the White House should not be allowed to determine what is relevant to the investigation. An umbrella group of victims' families joined the criticism, saying the terms of the accord should be public.

(...)

A Democrat on the panel who has criticized the accord, former Representative Timothy J. Roemer of Indiana, said in an interview that he believed that the panel had agreed to terms that would let the White House edit the reports to remove the contexts in which the intelligence was presented and to hide any "smoking guns."

"The President's Daily Brief can run 9 to 12 pages long," Mr. Roemer said. "But under this agreement, the commission will be allowed to see only specific articles or paragraphs within the P.D.B.'s. Our members may see only two or three paragraphs out of a nine-page report." The other Democratic critic on the panel, former Senator Max Cleland of Georgia, has described the agreement as unconscionable.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/national/14TERR.html

KEEP THIS KICKED!

...the Bush* White House.

- This is a coverup that makes the Nixon WH look like boy scouts. The Bushies KNOW they can't release this stuff at the risk of their own necks and careers.

- It looks like the 'commission' knows that releasing the whole truth would mean the impeachment of George Walker Bush*. This 'investigation' is as credible as Ashcroft's on the outting of the CIA agent.

- Why does congress continue to allow this government to investigate and exonerate itself?

I would think even some Repugs ought to be able to put politics aside for a moment. Yeah, I know it might be very damaging to their party as a whole, but for God's sake, this is a major fucking thing we are talking about. Not whether or not G.W. got a blow job, not whether or not he made some money off an illegal real estate deal, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY KNOWINGLY SENT 3,000 PEOPLE TO THEIR DEATHS.

So far few if any of our candidates have taken Bush head on for his failure on 911, costing America 3,000 lives. 911 was the biggest security failure in US history, allowing barely armed terrorists to strike not only our major city, but the headquarters of our military as well. I'll give Clark some credit, he refused to allow Bush to dodge responsibility, and made it clear that the Commander-in-Chief must take the responsibility.

that Max Cleland lost that election in Georgia . . . that particular race, in fact, is what convinced me that there really is vote tampering going on by the GOP and/or their minions . . .

...if Bush* disregarded warnings and 'allowed' an attack on the US for political gain. It's a high crime to cover up the evidence after the fact.

- It's not 'patriotic' to allow Bush* or any other 'president' to get away with something like this.

The text of my messages were variants of this basic message:

In order for the 911 Commission to function effectively and reach effective group decisions for the American people, they must ALL have access to ALL 911-related information.

I'm sure you and the other Commission members realize you are dealing with the most secretive administration in history which would like nothing better than to sweep this massive pre-911 failure under the rug. Adminstration spokespeople, most notably Condoleeza Rice, who asserted that the Administration could never have imagined such attacks, have made patently false statements about what was know prior to the attack. That fact alone should make you suspicious and even more determined to break through the barriers erected and put an end to the stalling the Administration is doing with respect to key information.

It is your job, and that of the other commissioners, to make sure nothing is hidden from the American public and especially the families of the 911 victims, about what happened prior to 911, why it happened and who was to blame. And blame must be assessed!

If you fail now, and accept the sham agreement offered by the White House with respect to access to Presidential Daily Intelligence briefings, especially the August 6, 2001 briefing, your work will be forever and historically tainted.

It's obvious he doesn't want the American people to know what exactly he did know. Otherwise, it's hello prison orange jumpsuit for a while, trial, and punishment for Treason under the USA PATRIOT Act.

This is unaccaptable, and un-American --but hardly surprising

Is there no one in the administration who will uphold the rule of law?

guess not.

Bush's numbers are going down because the team Kerry has gathered is EXPOSING them in whatever capacity they can to get through to the public.

They need to be heard MORE by the American people and in front of larger audiences. Joe Wilson, Gary Hart, Rand Beers, William Perry, and the GREAT Max Cleland swinging away.

"Administration officials have acknowledged that they are concerned that intelligence reports received by Mr. Bush in the weeks before 9/11 might be construed to suggest that the White House failed to respond to evidence suggesting that Al Qaeda was planning a catastrophic attack. The White House acknowledged last year in response to news reports that a copy of the Daily Brief in August 2001 noted that Al Qaeda might use hijacked planes in an attack."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/national/14TERR.html

But, how do the news networks get away with keeping men like this off the air? They're keeping Dean supporters happy by featuring mostly Dean stories.

Wilson was on air often for a bit, but as soon as Matthews became part of the story and was outed as a Rove boy, Matthews dropped the Wilson story and kept pushing Dean.

Wilson gets almost no airtime now that it's in the open he aligned with Kerry. Too bad so many Dems are accomodating BushInc. by applauding the silencing of Kerry's team.

most of the commissioners pledged with getting to the bottom of 9/11 practically cheer in agreement that these criminals DESERVE protection! Has everyone in this country gone mad??????????????????????????

show me Cleland is on the Kerry team...

and introduced Kerry for his announcement ceremony. Geez....Everyone knows this. How is it possible you could have missed it? Haven't you carefully examined all the candidates?

Kerry's team are the ones who have been actively bringing down Bush's credibility. You all just want to shut them up and get Dean in no matter what, so you don't open your eyes and ears to the bigger picture. You think Wilson stood up on his own last July?

www.johnkerry.com

very convincing! Bravo Cleland, and bravo Kerry by association.

My problem with Kerry is simple: when HE talks, it's almost always to bash Dean. And always for Dean's bullshit "sins" - much like you, blm.

Plus, K. voted for IWR and thus served as a BFEE enabler on their greatest crime yet.

If you're so much for Kerry, you should register the reality that he (& you, too) should stop whining about Dean all the time and come out more openly against Bush. It's great that he's doing it by proxy, but he should finally do it himself and allay the doubts - he'd be back in the race, I assure you.

------------------------------------------

Anyway, let's leave that all aside here and stick to the POINT:

All you people...

HAVE YOU SENT YOUR FAXES TO THE COMMISSION YET?!

HAVE YOU WRITTEN TO SUPPORT MAX CLELAND & TIM ROEMER? HAVE YOU WRITTEN TO ENCOURAGE THE 9/11 FAMILY STEERING COMMITTEE?

HAVE YOU WRITTEN TO ANY MEDIA WITH THESE LINKS, ENCOURAGING THEM TO COVER THE STORY?

ARE YOU GETTING READY TO ROCK AND ROLL ON THE 9/11 ISSUE IN THE DAYS TO COME?

HAVE YOU FORWARDED THIS STUFF TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW?

DO IT NOW! DO IT AGAIN, TOMORROW! KEEP IT UP!

Dean was getting away with lies and attacking Kerry regularly since Jan. 23. Kerry held off TOO long in reciprocating, in my view. Sheesh...Dean attacked Kerry as Bushlite when Kerry was recovering from cancer surgery.

The fact is that BushInc. knows who Kerry's team is and what they have been doing. That's why the media focuses on Dean for the last 10 months. Kerry's team has all the goods on BushInc. and were preparing the case against him.

Gary Hart knows pre9-11 what Bush failed to do. Rand Beers knows what post 9-11 failures occurred. Wilson knows WAY more about the cooked intel, and other intel guys are lined up behind him and his wife. Cleland knows HOW they operate politically, now and knows the coverup angles with the 9-11 report.


By the way...here's another Cleland article.
>>>>>>>
Former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland, of Georgia, declared his support for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry in a visit to Hampton on Veterans Day, emphasizing Kerry’s war record, leadership abilities and the lack of those same qualities in the current administration.
<snip>
Cleland, who served in the Senate with Kerry, praised the Massachusetts senator’s willingness to speak up for his principles and his new ideas for the future of the country.

"We need to create a new infrastructure, invest in jobs and in education," said Cleland, adding that the Bush administration is leading the country "toward deflationary recession," a continuing exodus of jobs and higher budget deficits.
<snip>
He called Kerry "a fellow Vietnam veteran, a former colleague, and an extraordinary human being," who understands the issues and problems this country faces.

Cleland added that the Democrats, and Kerry in particular, can win several states in the South, including Florida, Arkansas and Louisiana, by getting its supporters out.

"The death of the Democratic party in the South has been greatly exaggerated," Cleland said. "The Republicans won (in 2000) on turnout, not the issues. The Democrats need a strong get-the-vote-out campaign."
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/11122003/news/60248.htm

Message sent, as follows:

The recent agreement with the White House puts severe restrictions on the Commission's examination of intelligence reports. This is absolutely unacceptable.

The Commission has a grave responsibility to investigate 9-11 on behalf of the American people. If you allow your investigation to be undercut by the Bush administration's apparent need to hide the truth, you will fail in that responsibility.

The American people have a right to know the facts: why is the White House hiding? .

This agreement makes the Commission part of the attempt to cover up the facts. Please do not allow this to happen. If necessary, you must subpoena the documents.

I really miss that old war horse

We have to help Cleland!

Or will only Republicans who put Bush above the law be allowed to see the notes.

...as their VP nominee.

Imagine if they win.

Imagine then.

Later.

RJS

He speaks to vet groups all over the country and drills Bush a new one ever day.

The Max Cleland Revenge Tour 2004.

:loveya:

This is THE issue.

http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/11/14/1818204

thanks for posting :toast:

peace

Thanks for posting this. It is supremely important that we get this out there. I have sent my emails.

Get on the phone, people!
Call, e-mail, get active...
There IS strength in numbers, don't leave it for others to do...
CALL! WRITE! E-MAIL! NOW! THANKS!

...for ben-veniste

rben-veniste@mayerbrownrowe.com

!!

I posted that. The news today is that the Commission has reached a scandalous modus vivendi with the WH, allowing them to suppress the documents.

How can this be called oversight? On what divine right does this White House allow itself to act in complete secrecy?

what the Bushies have on certain people. Or perhaps what they're promising for collaboration.

It's just an outrage and "America" doesn't seen to care that much. My only hope is that 9/11 families can take this to public in a meaningful way.

*I will not despair*

they need to know we are paying attention.

COME ON KEEP THIS ONE KICKED!

Can you think of a more key issue? (I didn't say important - I said KEY. As in, 9/11 is the key to the doors of perception for the American majority.

Crack 9/11. Nothing will ever be the same!

:kick:

i will pass this along to everyone on my BUDDY LIST

:hi:

NSC Advisers can PRE-EDIT PDBs BEFORE the President sees them - and R.V. Allen red flag

So now we hear from Richard V. Allen President Reagan's first National Security Adviser and currently a fellow at the Hoover Institution, in today's NY Times assuring us there will be no 'smoking guns' in the President's Daily Briefs reviewed by a subset of Kean Commission members.

Of course there won't be -- AFTER the White House first 'edits' the documents. Allen ought to know. It was he who 'edited' just the key few pages out of former CIA Director William Casey's 1980 desk calendar for the dates of the October Surprise deal meeting Casey attended. And, as I've said here many times before, the nominally Democratic co-chair of the Kean Commission, Lee Hamilton, was ALSO 'the' Chairman of the House October Surprise Task Force who let Richard V. Allen GET BY WITH THIS OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

Allen was also the HEAD of the 1980 Reagan-Bush campaign October Surprise Group and went on to coordinate lies-through-their-teeth to the House Oct. Surprise Task Force with also-former Hoover Institution fellow Darrell Trent, all allowed by Kean Commission co-chairman Lee Hamilton. For Hamilton's perfidy in allowing Bush Sr., the current president's father, and Casey to literally get by with treason in the Oct. Surprise cover up, see the chapter on Hamilton towards the end of Robert Parry's book, Trick or Treason: The October Surprise Mystery.

If Richard V. Allen says there will be 'nothing to' the PDBs, that's 'the' strongest reason TO demand their complete release. He's a member of Perle's Defense Policy Board and an absolute 'insider'. Note also in the below that NSC Advisers often themselves edit the PDBs BEFORE the President sees them. Looks like the Kean Commission Victims' Family Steering Group, Tim Roemer, and Max Cleland should demand to see NOT ONLY the PDB versions the President saw, but ALSO the versions initially sent to NSC Adviser Condolezza Rice by the CIA. Any differences -- of which I'd predict there are critical ones -- will tell us a lot.

An Intelligent Thing to Do
By RICHARD V. ALLEN
New York Times Op Eds
November 14, 2003

<>

EDWARDS, Colo.

The White House has finally agreed to allow the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks to read parts of the same intelligence reports the president read every morning in the months leading up to the attacks. As commission members begin to review these briefings, they may be forgiven for asking: what was all the fuss about?

For several months the Bush administration refused to release the reports, known as the President's Daily Brief. Under the agreement announced this week, some members of the commission will be able to read parts of some briefs. The White House will still be able to edit the reports to remove material unrelated to the commission's work.

Some members of the commission have criticized the deal, and some victims' families have asked that the agreement be made public. But the debate over the reports has been not only perplexing but also misleading. The administration generally, and the White House in particular, has cooperated with the commission, turning over huge quantities of relevant information. With this agreement, President Bush shows that the administration has nothing to hide.

(...)

And while we shouldn't expect (the members of the commission) to find a smoking gun, we can hope that their work will deepen their understanding, and ours, of how much the government knew about the terrorist threat that was at our door.

Richard V. Allen, national security adviser from 1980 to 1982, is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution.

k

:hi:

Here's an open letter from Kyle Hence of unansweredquestions.org and 9/11 Citizens Watch...

Dear readers:

In my opinion this so-called deal renders the Commission a farce and
their investigation a joke. This so-called compromise has compromised
the now spineless, toothless Commission. The Commission plainly tips
their hand in refusing to reveal to the family members the simple
details of the agreement. It demonstrates to every American told the
world changed forever on 9/11, to all those who harbor doubts about the
official story and who seek genuine transparency and accountability that
it's just business as usual as the truth is buried behind rhetoric, a
dark veil of secrecy and denial, and a convoluted set of conditions of
access. Both the cowed Commission and the duplicitous President who
created it only after his hand was forced by the victims' families are
complicit in this travesty of justice and blatant compromise of
investigative standards.

C'mon folks...two commissioners get to see only portions of the
Presidential Daily Briefs (PDBs). These documents cannot leave the
White House. The two commissioners take notes. Then the notes must be
reviewed by White House counsel before being released to two other
commissioners who then can only talk about them with the remaining six
commissioners. And ultimately none of this might even be released to
the American public because the White House will of course review and
perhaps redact the final report due out on May 27th next year.

In all likelihood based on leaks discussed for months now, there are
details hidden in these presidential papers that indeed there were in
fact somewhat or very detailed warnings about a threat from Osama bin
Laden to the Continental US; a threat that could involve hijackings.
Warnings which the Administration said in the immediate aftermath that
they didn't recieve. Clearly they fear this story might emerge
undeniably in black and white if full access was granted. Given this
understanding it comes to no surprise that they would go to such lengths
to so seriously restrict access to the Commissioners, all of whom have
security clearances making them legally bound not to relate to the
public the contents of classified material.

And what's particularly interesting about the whole bruhaha over these
documents is that there is absolutely no mention of the details of the
even more important National Security Counsel meeting called by
Counterterrorism Director Richard Clarke and held in July 2001. This
song and dance is a smokescreen. The report circulated and discussed at
that time referred to an imminent attack that would occur without
warning and would inflict mass casualties or something to that effect.
Word is that meeting led the President to request a more detailed
briefing on the Al-Qeada threat which he recieved in the form of a PDB
on August 6th.

What's even more interesting to this observer than this neglect of the
NSC's documents of 2001 is the fact that Dr. Zelikow, the Commission's
Director is in compromised position. See, we've compromises all over
the place. This time it's because of a blatant conflict of interest due
to his close ties with National Security Advisor, Condaleeza Rice with
whom he co-authored a book last year and even more importantly, he was a
member of the transition team that established the make-up of the
current National Security Counsel. This is without doubt the worst
conflict of interest to emerge since Kissinger was appointed Chair of
the Commission in December of last year. Yet here again, the Commission
has dismissed the concern of 9/11 families and others. This blatant
arrogance is testimony to a nefarious pattern of shenanigans which by
all appearances, if unchallenged by popular outcry, will insure that the
whole story behind 9/11 never emerges and no one is held accountable.

Please read the following material and inform yourself if you haven't
already. And then please forward this email to your friends and
colleagues before taking some action either in support of Commissioners
Cleland and Roemer or in protest of the White House obfuscation and the
Commission's acquiescience. Come and join CitizensWatch and the family
members at Drew University next Wednesday as well...time to make some
noise about this investigation gone bad turned cover-up -- a sham.

Sincerely,

Kyle F. Hence
kylehence@earthlink.net
911citizenswatch.org

Come on, people - isn't this more important than "Unfreep this Poll" and similar?

:kick:

.

...something we were taught was horrid...something we spent billions fighting. What is happening? How many outrages a day do we have to experience? I am numb?

I hope you've at least called/faxed the Commission!

If it's Kean and Hamilton, that puts the nail in the coffin on this investigation. At the same time, it makes it seem almost certain that Bush is hiding some sort of criminal negligence, at the least.

why?

all who have been following this will know, but for those reading up, Kean was in biz with Saudi Khalid bin Mahfouz via Delta/Hess Amereda until just three weeks before his appt to head the commission.

bin Mahfouz was an 11% shareholder in Harken energy, Dubya's oil firm which was propped up for a year by a shell company started by stockholders to hide the company was failing (a smaller version of Enron, Krugman calls it). Bush then sold his shares just before the company fessed up.

bin Mahfouz is reportedly also the brother-in-law of bin Laden.

Hamilton was on the Iran-Contra committee hearings and he was also a "fixer" on that committee, it would seem, to keep the truth from the American people at that time that Reagan and his gang were running an unconstitutional, illegal and impeachable covert operation to fund both the Ayatollah and dictators in Latin America.

Can George Bush be a bigger piece of scum? I always think he couldn't be any more of a fascist skank, but then he always finds new ways to insult this country.

It's too bad members of the 9-11 commission are enabling Bush in his continuing quest to destroy democracy.

And just as bad, they are denying family members whose loved ones were destroyed in the World Trade Center the right to an honest accounting by Bush and his gang of thugs.

the precise details of the deal between WH and Commission are secret!

Pretty unbelievable, eh?

Let's keep this alive until Monday - and flood the Commission with calls!

It's even up on FOX

Victims' Families Rip 9/11 Documents Deal (11/14)

http://news.globalfreepress.com
http://new.globalfreepress.com/index.pl?section=911

http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/11/14/1818204

Meanwhile over at The Herald (UK) - possibly the most important 9/11 clue of all has been revived!!!

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/4567.html

CIA denies seeking pact with bin Laden

PARIS
November 14 2003

The CIA rejected as fantasy claims it tried to negotiate a non-aggression pact with Osama bin Laden just two months before the September 11 attacks.

Richard Labeviere, author of the Corridors of Terror, says the CIA's Dubai chief approached bin Laden while the al Qaeda leader was being treated for a kidney complaint in the United Arab Emirates. He said the meeting took place in the American Hospital in Dubai on July 12, eight weeks before the attacks.

"Such an allegation is sheer fantasy, no such thing occurred," said Mark Mansfield, a CIA spokesman, echoing an earlier rebuttal of French reports of the meeting.

Labeviere said a contact in the hospital told him of an encounter, which was later confirmed by a Gulf prince. The second contact told him the meeting had been set up by Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi intelligence.

"Turki thought he could start direct negotiations between the Saudi millionaire and the CIA on one fundamental point: that bin Laden and his supporters end their hostilities against American interests," he says. In exchange, the CIA and the Saudi (intelligence) services undertook to allow bin Laden to return to his native country. The meeting was a failure, Labeviere said.

k

:kick:

I see that many people on DU understand the continuing importance of 9/11.

Now here is an opportunity to actually DO something about it!

So let's keep this thread kicked and

LET'S ALL GET READY TO CALL AND FAX THE COMMISSION FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING!

www.911truth.org

:kick:

Get ready to call and fax the Commission!

Let's go!!!

Times are changing, he'd know what he was up against, and he could return fire.

:kick:

do it!

hurt to contact some media outlets and ask them why they have NOT reported anything on this enormous story.

...need to remember that ALL of Bush's* considerable power flows from 9-11. The power not granted him by the Constitution, he took by using 9-11 as an excuse for preemptive wars against any country he thinks may harm the US. This power will last until his 'war on terrorism' ends...and they've already told us his war could last decades.

- Above all this...the families of the victims of 9-11 and indeed all Americans deserve to know what happened before, during and after 9-11. Bush's* demeaning reason for the attacks...that they 'hate us for our freedom'...shouldn't be allowed to stand.

:mad:

please, go to Jersey on Wednesday! And if you're not, write to the media.

(See the latest thread for more...)

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Go to the newest thread for all details:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=727215