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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:18 PM
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Bill Press just said wounded GIs were kept away from Vets Day
Bill Press just said on MSNBC that GIs wounded in Iraq were kept away from Veterans Day ceremonies so that they wouldn't be visible to the American people.

???????????????

Has anyone heard anything about this?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:30 PM
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1. I haven't but I believe it. We can see dead Italian soldiers to prove
there is a coalition but our own wounded and dead are hidden to avoid admission of screwup.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:57 PM
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4. Haven't heard it
but I certainly would believe it.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:31 PM
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2. No...
but if this is true, it is horrid.

:grr:
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:47 PM
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3. kick, because I want to know if it is true. n/t
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:16 PM
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5. Only this

__Anti-Iraq War Veterans Pulled from Florida Parade

The Florida Times-Union reports: "A group of 30 military veterans critical of the war in Iraq hoped to use Tuesday's Veterans Day parade to call attention to the increasingly deadly conflict but instead found themselves fighting for something much more fundamental. Members of Veterans For Peace and Vietnam Veterans Against the War were yanked off a downtown Tallahassee street, directly in front of the Old Capitol, while marching in the holiday parade they had legitimately registered in. As organizers allowed the parade to roll on -- including veterans from various wars, several high school marching bands and even a group of young women from the local Hooters restaurant -- the anti-war veterans were ordered onto sidewalks where they passed out leaflets and displayed a banner reading, 'Honor the Warrior, Not the War.'" Hey, it's called the First Amendment! Our veterans fought for our Constitution -- but in Jeb's Florida that doesn't count for anything! Nor do votes!

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/111203/met_14020003.shtml
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:25 PM
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6. Utterly Disgraceful
:grr: :mad: :grr:
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:59 PM
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7. yup
And the crowd stood by waving flags and watched it happen.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:22 PM
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8. Follow up:...
Just saw Press ask about the taking of wounded to Vets events. It is true that wounded Vets were kept away from events by gov't. But, wne asked by vets oranizations the vets said they wanted to go and were taken to events, by VFW, Gulf War vets, American Legion, etc.

No one seems to know where the idea of noninclusion seems to come from. (Yeah Right!)

God, I really hate this administration!!!!!!

:grr: :nuke:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 06:56 PM
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9. can't find anything conclusive on google
I'll watch for the transcript of this to see if there's something more definitive.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 07:26 PM
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10. Was on Buchanan and Press, second story I beleive...
could only catch portions, thast's why i couldn't be more precise. Did catch the part where other vet groups had taken vets to ceremonies.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:28 PM
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11. FULL STOP!
Am I to understand that Veterans wounded in this current clusterfuck were PREVENTED FROM BEING SEEN in a parade ostensibly in THEIR HONOR???
There are no words...
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:32 PM
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12. Anti-Iraq war veterans pulled from parade

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/111203/met_14020003.shtml

By J. TAYLOR RUSHING
Capital Bureau Chief
TALLAHASSEE -- A group of 30 military veterans critical of the war in Iraq hoped to use Tuesday's Veterans Day parade to call attention to the increasingly deadly conflict but instead found themselves fighting for something much more fundamental.

Members of Veterans For Peace and Vietnam Veterans Against the War were yanked off a downtown Tallahassee street, directly in front of the Old Capitol, while marching in the holiday parade they had legitimately registered in.

As organizers allowed the parade to roll on -- including veterans from various wars, several high school marching bands and even a group of young women from the local Hooters restaurant -- the anti-war veterans were ordered onto sidewalks where they passed out leaflets and displayed a banner reading, "Honor the Warrior, Not the War."

"There's a war going on that's based on lies, just like Vietnam," said veteran Tom Baxter, an Army equipment maintenance officer in Vietnam for 16 months in 1967-69. "They were lying then, and they're lying now."

Parade chairman Ken Conroy, a Korean War veteran, said he ejected the anti-war veterans because they were offensive and because Tallahassee police also wanted them removed. He offered to refund their $10 registration fee and said he was not suppressing the group's free speech rights.

"They can have their free speech, just not in the parade," Conroy said. "They belong on the sidewalk."

The six-block parade circling downtown Tallahassee was sponsored by the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 3308.

Baxter said about 12 of the 30 anti-war members at the parade were walking in line when they were kicked out about 20 minutes into the hourlong event. He said the parade applications were filled out fully and correctly but must have gone unnoticed by organizers.

"They said we were offensive, but we heard no boos or anything," he said. "A few harsh looks from some of the active-duty guys, but that's about it."

Tallahassee police Sgt. David Folsom denied police played any role in the situation and said Tuesday was the first time he could recall anyone being excluded from the parade.

"We don't police the participants," Folsom said. "We don't have an opinion on who's in it, as long as they're not walking around naked or drinking in public. It's just not a police decision."

Parade spectators were surprised to hear the anti-war veterans were ejected.

"I don't think it's right," said LaToya Jackson, a JROTC member from Rickards High School. "They said they were supporting the troops, just not the war."

Marc and Khristina Munday of Tallahassee suggested the veterans have earned a special right to have their voices heard.

"They were in Vietnam, which may or may not have been a just war," Marc Munday said. "And quite a few people feel the way they do about the war in Iraq. They shouldn't have been kicked out of the parade. America is about free speech."

<snip>
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:41 PM
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13. interesting it happened in FL
Little Bro Jeb helping his big twig brother out.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:57 PM
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14. They were "OFFENSIVE???"
They got SHOT AT and probably were forced to participate in things that make you go HMMMMM for the sake of LIES proffered by STUPID WHITE MEN??? Were there ANY from this current debacle in their number??? Terwilliger, I want to KNOW NOW. Have you any information? (Breathe in, breathe out... con-cen-trate on the calmness of the inner mounting flame...) AAAAAGGGGHHHH! :argh: :argh: :argh:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:10 AM
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15. kick
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