North Carolina poll – Edwards (43), Dean (25); everyone else single digits

The poll found Edwards leading in North Carolina's Democratic presidential primary, which will be held in May.

Edwards drew the support of 43 percent of Democrats surveyed, with Dean at 25 percent - an amount that has more than doubled since January. The seven other Democrats were in single digits, including Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts at 9 percent - down from 20 percent in July.

The poll also showed increasing approval of his presidential run - 54 percent of those surveyed now approve of it compared to 39 percent when he launched his exploratory bid in January. Edwards said in September he would not seek re-election to the Senate next year so he could devote all of his energies to run for the presidency.

Twenty-one percent of those polled said Edwards is likely to win the nomination, while 34 percent said he has some chance to win and 36 percent said he has no chance.

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The telephone poll of 600 likely voters in North Carolina, conducted Monday through Thursday, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031115/APN/311150546

I'd been counting on him pulling 3rd or 4th place in N.C. Yeah, it's too early to tell/the sample wasn't big enough/Research 2000 is a pro-Dean polling company (I dunno, haven't heard of it before)/Dean sucks and should just die.

He's still polling second in N.C. according to THIS poll.

:)

I'll just do it anyway.

deandeandeandeandeandeandeandeandean.

Edwards would be better for the country, is farther to the left and can still beat Junior more soundly than any of the others.

(Just my happy opinion...)

I think he has a lot of good ideas and I like his energy and enthusiasm. If Dean's not the candidate, I seriously hope that Edwards is.

Edwards has an 18 pt lead over Dean, a 34 pt lead over Kerry, and a 34 pt or greater lead over Clark & everyone else.

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until at least probably the end of spring. I'm pretty sure of this because I know of all the primaries until a week after the March 2 Super Tuesday, and NC isn't one of them

However I do think Edwards can win the SC, TN, and VA primaries.

to dispel the myth that he won't win a Southern state....

This poll is not saying anything to the contrary, is it?

this poll is good news in my view..

A major party primary, now more than ever, is never a direct or indirect parallel of how a candidate will do in a national election.

of course it's one of the biggest bogus myths regurgitated constantly by Dean supporters, one of many such political science myths and perceptions.

If that were the case, Bush was a much stronger general election candidate than McCain would have been.

the NC primary is so far away people aren't paying much attention yet. The nominee will most likely be determined before it gets here. Edwards has got the party apparatus right now and the local media is not covering the primaries much, but is following Edwards. The 22% number pretty much tells a story in itself.

Hmmm?

its name recognition right now. Only party activists are.

Right now it's all media coverage and name recognition. Notice how each does versus Bush.

The poll, commissioned by The News & Observer of Raleigh, showed Bush ahead of Edwards 52 percent to 42 percent in a head-to-head matchup. Bush also leads the former Vermont governor Dean, 54 percent to 40 percent, and Clark 50 percent to 40 percent.

Edwards -10%
Clark -10%
Dean -14%

Who are driven by emotion over logic, and by Dean's unfair corporate media saturation over independant research

Bush also leads the former Vermont governor Dean, 54 percent to 40 percent, and Clark 50 percent to 40 percent.

This race is just getting started, and look how well Clark is does in a matchup against Shrub. Clark will be received well by a wide audience and win.


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First, in a nine person field in a rivals homestate he is getting a quarter of the vote and is doing much better than anyone else in the state except the US Senator from North Carolina.

Second, in match-ups against Bush--yes, both Edwards and Clark are trailing Bush by ten-points and Dean is trailing by fourteen-points, but just a few months ago Edwards was 19-points behind Bush in this same poll. Edwards and Clark are the "southern" candidates are not doing all that much better than Dean--a yankee from Vermont. Edwards has 42% against Bush while Dean and Clark both have 40% of the vote.

Heck at 54-40, Dean is not doing all that much worse than Al Gore from Tennessee did in 2000 in North Carolina--and has alot of time to improve his standing in the state.