Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I just debated a wingnut about overtime

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:22 PM
Original message
I just debated a wingnut about overtime
He said its better to work without overtime. That way he can work more hours. I said if they can afford to pay you a certain amount why is it they cant afford this amount when its overtime?

Am I wrong here? Someone not in an alternative world help me out here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. Lord help!
I can't believe that someone actually believes this. I sure don't know how to help.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:26 PM
Response to Original message
2. Why would he want to work more hours for free?
They're not going to raise his "salary" to be equivalent to overtime.

And all those people who used to get overtime will have lower incomes so they will have less to spend so they will buy less so the economy will go down, etc.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sable302 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:26 PM
Response to Original message
3. Your wingnut friend says..
'Pleeeeease make me work longer for less money.'

And we wonder why they are strange.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:27 PM
Response to Original message
4. So he's trading something of value (work hours) for NOTHING?
Sounds like he's too dumb to debate.

Someone's going to get the value of him working all those extra hours AND IT WON"T BE HIM!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
5. Why?
Encourage the Wing-Nut. Let him thump the Bible and spread the word to his heart's content...until he takes a good look at his paycheck.

Then, and only then, will he listen....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
6. Does he get overtime now? Tell him to give it up then if he thinks
its such a bad idea.

Then maybe he can work 80 hours for 40 hrs of pay...what a dumbshit that person sounds like.

Once again we are regressing...maybe he favors company script and stores??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. actually these people are college educated and smart
but when it comes down to either criticizing Bush or using nutcase logic , theyll use the nut case logic. Amazingly messed up
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:31 PM
Response to Original message
7. I'm not sure I'm following you.
Or maybe him. Does he mean he'll work all the hours his employer wants at regular wage, not at time and a half for overtime?

If that's what he's saying, I suppose his reasoning is that the employer, if forced to pay overtime rates, will hire more people at the regular rate, and no one will get overtime, and he'd rather work additional hours at the regular rate of pay rather than get no additional hours at all (which he'd be willing to work so long as he's just paid his regular hourly wage). While I understand that reasoning (and I hope the rest of you followed me), he's nuts not to want overtime. In my opinion anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 10:32 PM
Response to Original message
8. Why does he want to work more hours for nothing?
He doesn't sound very bright.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 11:04 PM
Response to Original message
10. He's an idiot too
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 08:45 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC