Condi needs a history lesson (is protest a 'privilege'?)

nostamj

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:05 AM
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Condi needs a history lesson (is protest a 'privilege'?)

Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 10:22 AM by nostamj

"Protests are a part of our democratic heritage and our democratic privilege. But I hope the protesters remember that the causes for which the Prime Minister and the President have now become well known - in Afghanistan and Iraq - are finally getting those countries to the place that people might have the same privilege of protest. The world is far better off and freedom has been advanced by the destruction of <the Iraqi> regime."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/11/16/nbush16.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/11/16/ixnewstop.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=19734

she's responding to the threat of massive protest in the UK when the BushCo mascot goes to visit the queen next week. (aka "Uncurious George Goes To The Palace")

seems last time I checked that protest was a RIGHT. a Constitutional RIGHT at that.

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soothsayer

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:09 AM
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1. yup, it's a right---privilege is a private law

Protest is supposed to be a right, but as we've seen, it's getting squashed in this country.

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lemon lime

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:11 AM
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2. Yes, the right to peaceful assembly

As much as I hate Bush, there is this little thing about dictators not liking any dissenting voice. To many people around the world, protests are not allowed. Even peaceful ones. To these people, it would be a privledge. To us in the US, it is a right.

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RoBear

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:11 AM
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3. Interesting, isn't it...

...that so many in this administration have no concept of what the constitution and bill of rights really mean.

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G_j

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:12 AM
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4. and I guess, as * would say,

we should just feel "lucky" to be allowed that privilege.

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Paschall

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:19 AM
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5. OT - I hadn't read this before

Really incredible.

"They wanted blast- and bullet-proofed windows," one senior courtier told the Telegraph. "They wanted strengthened curtains and strengthening to the walls of the President's suite and the other rooms that he would be spending time in during his two-day stay."

"...rumours emerged that the White House also desired a Black Hawk helicopter, capable of ferocious firepower, to hover continuously over the Palace."

Uh, didn't the Queen live in the Palace throughout the Blitz of London? Wha's Junior's problem?

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nostamj

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:24 AM
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6. Wha's Junior's problem?

that would be another LONG thread wouldn't it???

actually, he probably doesn't know .01% of what's going on behind this visit. he's just excitied about going to a palace.

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Jack Rabbit

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:45 AM
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9. The London Blitz

During the London Blitz, King George and the royal family often went to the bomb shelters with the common people to weather the attacks. Try to imagine Bush doing that.

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hang a left

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:27 AM
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7. The last time I looked, they were protesting in Iraq. I guess they

just haven't gotten to that place where that might be their privilege.

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Jack Rabbit

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:39 AM
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8. How arrogant

To protest the actions of one's government is a right, Dr. Rice, and very close to being a natural right at that. It is not a privilege to be granted and revoked by tyrants at a whim.

Anybody who speaks of democratic privilege wouldn't know democracy if it bit her, as one day soon it will bite all the Bushies.

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ComerPerro

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Sun Nov-16-03 10:47 AM
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10. Well, one thing you should have figured out by now

Is that with this administration, there are no rights.

Everything is a privelage for which we must be thankful. Its their fun little way of keeping power.

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nostamj

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Sun Nov-16-03 12:17 PM
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11. they also pervert the meanings of fundamental rights

dissent has been re-defined to mean something anti-american, something traitorous, something unpatriotic.

they're evil.

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