Hunters needed in North Georgia, too many DEER, sharp shooters called in..

They claim we have an overpopulation, and relocating the deer will cost too much money, so we need to kill them off...

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Shooters to thin Red Top herd

http://www.ajc.com/monday/content/epaper/editions/monday/metro_f3fae246969b400a1070.html

Too many deer crowd Red Top Mountain State Park, state officials say, but not for long.

Beginning early next year, sharpshooters firing from elevated platforms will kill more than 100 deer, drawn into range by piles of corn.

"This isn't hunting," said Bob Warren, professor of wildlife ecology and management at the University of Georgia. "It's almost going to be like a SWAT operation."

The deer must be killed, state officials say, to preserve the park. And, says Warren, the so-called "lethal removal" is, in the long run, more humane than relocating the deer or letting them starve.

Instead of this phoney baloney stuff.

for out of state hunting licenses. More "regular, old fashion" hunters would come and help from neighboring states.

We humans have already screwed up the balance of nature by killing all of the wolves and panthers that would normally and naturally keep the balance and numbers of deer down.
I worked for many environmentalist groups in my time and have gotten used to the idea of hunters replacing ( if possible ) the natural predators that once did the job beautifully before farmers killed them all off.
Too many deer in one place is bad for all of the deer there. Moving them is, yes expensive, but also causes the rapid movement of various diseases that do more harm than good. Other deer populations find coping with new diseases to be disasterous when taken with the starvation normally associated with the winter months.
We are now the best hope they have. Hunting, when done ethically, is still the best method of strengthening the herd.

The shortage of wolves and panthers may explain in part why there are so many deer, but that's certainly not the only factor. Ever since deer started being managed as a valuable cash crop for hunters, with the knowing, big-dollar assistance of state wildlife agencies, their numbers have gone through the roof.

And by the way---that sitting in a comfortable blind and shooting deer who show up to eat piles of corn scenario describes 90% of the deer "hunting" done in my state of Texas. Not much of a challenge.....

I just let my dogs take the deer in a natural way. This thins the week and diseased animals and gives the dogs good exercise. I feel that because man has changed the world we must try to get things as close to normal as possible and letting the dogs hunt as natural predators is helping nature become whole again.

I surely hope you keep your dogs confined to your own property.

Dogs that are allowed to run loose and bring down deer are also prone to mutilating other people's cats, chickens, goats etc.

We had a crazy fu*k with a pack of huskies move into this community about 6 years ago. He let the dogs run wild in a pack.

Those dogs killed people's pet cats and livestock.

The guy said it was the other owner's fault for not properly protecting their animals (the dogs would break thru fencing and attack cats in front of homes).

Someone eventually shot one of the guys dogs and he moved away.

I live on eastern Long Island and there are too many deer. They have caused fatal car accidents and destroy property and have made my vegetable garden extremely difficult to protect.

I live from my veggie garden.

Property boundaries really do not exist because the are not part of nature. Unless of course you consider man part of nature.

Dogs are NOT a substitute for wolf packs! Dogs have been domesticated for so many millenia that they now lack the instincts to make a fast kill on a large animal like a deer. Instead of going for the throat and ensuring a relatively fast kill, they harass and pick at the animal until it drops from blood loss, and then rip into it while its still alive! I have seen neighbors dogs do this on our farm, and I have shot those dogs dead! Dogs are NOT natural predators any longer, any more than cows or chickens on a farm are.

I don't know what kind of laws you have where you live, but here in MN, it is a $1000 fine per dog if a DNR officer sees one of your dogs chasing a deer, even if it is on your own property.

I consider humans to be a natural predator of deer, just as much as wolves and cougars were. But yes, we have screwed it up by removing the other native predators and placed all the burden on ourselves. I have seen a wild wolf once here in MN, and it was a thing of beauty.

According to the article, the deer are crowding into a developed area and it would be a risk to the people living there to open the hunting season there.

Bows have a much shorter range than any firearm, are silent, and are deadly in the hands of an experienced archer. Sharpshooters still use firearms with a much greater range, and thus are much more dangerous than a bow. The only difference is that the sharpshooters use suppressors (silencers) to keep the noise levels down.

from those nasty deer.

AK-47's and all it will take.

Here in NE Ohio, if we didn't thin our dear population those suckers would be EVERYWHERE. I'm all for a healthy deer population, but they breed so rapidly that before you know it theres a deer slamming into your windshield.

I'm not sure about this whole SWAT operation thing, as they could simply expand hunting season.

We've had a problem with deer over population for several years. Ga. is just now getting around to doing something publicly about it. Under the radar, game officials have been urging hunters to take more than the limit. Every year I count four or five hit by cars where I live.

The deer at Red Top do not have any fear of humans as they don't even run when they see you coming.

Why not just let hunters come in and do the job?

:wtf: is up with having sharpshooters pick them off from platforms?

"downed cows" are sick animals that fall down on the way into the slaughter house, tho some are 'Prodded' up and thru the door... Legislation was acquired to allow the 'Downed cows' to be ground up into meal and fed to mink farms in MN, some escaped and carried CJD/mad cow into the wild. now there are 10's of thousands of square miles of RED ZONE, the dear spread the disease by social licking, each other and maybe the salt licks in public grazing lands.. check out http://bbc.co.uk//hi/health/3246985.stm and www.maddeer.com ..on one of the sites they discuss the very "tiny" chance of getting Prion disease eating deer meat...one conclusion was that cjd disease was not actually the cause of current cases, ...'instead they are thought to arise ""SPONTANEOUSLY"" in older patients, leading to a very swift decline and death.' emphasis mine. I have seen these animals shaking, quivering, seizing and falling down, then being forced up and into the door. This Disease outbreak is being covered up to protect the Beef Industry at great cost to the citizens, another example of insidious Fascism in our government, a product of the current system of campaign contributions.

And be sure to send Zell Miller in too. In fact, better make sure that Zell is wearing camoflauge. You want him to blend in with the surroundings so the deer don't notice the Big Mouthed DINO in their habitat.

What's that Ted? You shot Zell Miller? Ah, that's OK, it's open season on treasonous traitor shitheads. Anne Coulter told me so, and you know she would never lie about something like that.....

but seriously, I know some very insane and stupid hunters.

The most stupid thing I've heard from a hunter was this..."Don't walk in the woods, unless you're wearing brightly colored clothing. Otherwise it aint the hunters' fault fur shooting you."

In their words, "being a nature lover can also make you just enother of those deeers." :crazy:

It is bad enough that I can't walk on public property without the danger of getting shot, but no hunter can get away with hunting on my property. we kick out on average, three hunting on our land every year!!! The least they could of done was ask first. And the worst thing about hunters, they sometimes throw bloody remains of the animals they kill, on the roads and on private property in trash bags. Oh thankyou responsible hunters!!!

They really have no respect for "life, liberity, or property" IMHO!

Personally, I'd rather have trained pros taking care of this. Hunters do a necessary service, but they sho nuff some dumb sobs sometimes. All the time shooting each other. No, get it over with asap.

What's going on with wildlife anyway? The moose and bear (coyotes too?) populations are starting to get out of control too. Hmm, now that I think about it, our numbers are swelling to such a degree that we certainly aren't helping the situation, expanding ever further/farther into the woods.

Take em out "Nam style"

Poor buggers

states. Because there are too many of them, deer ravage gardens and fields of crops. They also cause accidents by leaping out in front of cars, trucks, motorcycles, injuring and even killing humans in the process. Relocation programs and some expanded hunts have gone on for years without curbing the overpopulation. In years when the mast is poor, the deer problem intensifies so that they go into heavily populated areas and destroy people's lawns and landscaping plants. Even out in the boonies, we have deer coming right up to our house and nibbling the azaleas close to the ground. (Azaleas are the only thing I still have growing outside my fenced gardens, having been planted when deer still wouldn't come near to humans.) It's sad that deer have to be killed this way to reduce the overpopulation problem but it seems to be the only thing that will work. Letting them starve or be undernourished, as they are and have been for many years, is sad, too.

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the deer
For the Does' want more foilage
And the Bucks' ignore their fear

The trouble with the Does'
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the Bucks' are just too hungry
And they grab up the foilage bright
But the Bucks' can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the Does'
Can't be happy with their lesser grade

There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the Does' scream 'Oppression!'
And the Bucks' just shake their head

So the Does' formed a union
And demanded equal rights
The Bucks are just too greedy
We will make them take their flight
Now there's no more Buck oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the deer are all kept equal
By bow&arrow, gun and saw

I've heard they are conservatives. Does anybody know with certainty that that's the case?

is great aint it....go read "witchhunt" and it doesn't sound very conseravative to me.

and it really is more humane to cull the herd than to have them tearing up property before the stave to death.

You may not appresiate hunting but pests this size are a real problem.

except for the automobile. An acquaintance from work was killed several years ago when he hit a deer, throwing the body up and through his pickup window. I don't have many kind feelings for deer. Just yesterday I saw a large deer wandering around on the four lane, cars were slowing and honking. We're praying for a really snowy, cold winter this year. Something's got to take the herd down to a reasonable level.

its hard to understand how big a problem this is unless you have had to experience it.

that there are too many republicans in North Georgia ...

you know the old saying about what's good for the goosesteppers is good for the ganders ...

then we wouldn't be having this problem. There used to be no deer in North Georgia, so they state brought some in. They have no natural predator there other than humans, so they've overpopulated and stormed the highways.

I love deer meat though. Mmmm, gooood.

Much more humane to have them splattered all over the road by the early-morning commute crowd, eh?

So, where should they "relocate" them to? Another area where they can become a problem?

The herds are HUGE, they're sick (spongy-brain, or whatever that's called that Deer up North have) they have NO "natural predators" (noble non-human carnivores who are just trying to get by, unlike MAN, who SHOULD know better) and they tend to eat themselves into starvation if left alone.

Yeah, pack 'em up and take 'em someplace else where they can strip the flora to nothing and continue to outstrip the habitat's ability to support them....

Slaughtering them is a huge waste, but i don't see anyone coming up with real solutions, just delaying strategies

We are now talking about progressive ways to get rid of deer. Just give them to me, and I will gladly eat them.