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phirili Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 03:59 PM
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Dean "deeply saddened" by attack from his friend Gephardt ....
Dean may have complained that he was the victim of his rivals' attacks but launched one of his own last week against Gephardt in a new direct mail brochure criticizing Gephardt not only for voting to give Bush the authority to go to war in Iraq, but also for standing with Bush in the Rose Garden the day they announced a deal on the resolution.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46448-2003Nov15.html

Dean accused Gephardt of engaging in the "politics of the past" and said he was "deeply saddened" by the attack from someone he considers a friend.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/6762940.htm
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warner Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:05 PM
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1. All are losing focus i think
I think they need to get together and decide on what they want to gain out of this. How can they further either agenda if they knock each other down like this. I know Iowa is important but its not the end goal. United we stand, divided we fall.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 07:44 PM
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14. Excellent post
I've said this all along, the canidates can bitch and fling shit at each other now, but come the time for the nomination, they had damn well suck up their fucking egos and fully support whoever gets the actual nomination. If there's any sour grapes from a canidate's camp, that is unacceptable. I don't care how much you love Dean or Kerry or DK, if they don't win, you'd better support the guy who does.
Dividing our power will give Bush four more years.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:07 PM
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2. A gossip column
This isn't an article about the politics and direction of this country, it's a gossip column. We should demand better from these reporters. There were alot of really good things said last night and our message will never get out as long as we focus on this bullshit gossip instead of the ways we'll change the country. No wonder the voters don't know what the Democratic party stands for.
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:19 PM
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3. If Dean calls Gephardt a friend, then that's another reason to vote for
Kucinich.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:23 PM
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4. No theres better reasons to vote for Kucinich than that
Actually there is a Gep/Dean connections, Dean supported Gep for the nomination back in 88 I think I read and Trippi I think was Gep's campaign manager back then. Trust me JB theres a bunch more reasons to vote for Kucinich other than this. Kucinich considers Edwards his best friend out of all the guys running. On Gephardt, I am despite IWR and others ok with him, he has a Kucinich like although not as like economic platform, and thats where I want our party a changing in economic policy. Loads better reasons to prefer Kucinich trust me.
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:05 PM
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8. I didn't mean to imply that that's the ONLY reason we should back Kucinich
Kucinich is my favorite. I'm kicking myself, because he recently spoke at the University of Washington - not much more than FIVE BLOCKS from where I live - and I missed it!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 07:33 PM
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13. Sorry my bad
Theres so many reasons to back Kucinich.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:30 PM
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5. something rotten in D(U)enmark?
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 04:34 PM by buycitgo
look at this locked thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=721127&mesg_id=721127

in which the same person tosses in an unsupported stink bomb:

Dean accused Hillary of supporting Iraq resolution

this story is OLD OLD news......two months old

does it deserve rehashing?

phirili.....

what do you have to say for yourself?

you say "this week", from a two month old story; disingenuous, to say the least, whether the quote is from the story or not.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:41 PM
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6. What is your point?
Do you need your dean-bashing-thread fix?

Throw some more spaghetti on the wall to see if anything sticks.

lack of interest
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TheReligiousLeft Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:49 PM
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7. The democratic contenders are like, "horn scraping against horn."
DU Apocalypse, chapter 5:3-4 "3But from this dust was formed a New Creature. It had nine horns, then ten, then nine again. It smelled the blood of the Child of Empire and struck him. 4But the New Creature also struck itself, horn scraped against horn." <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=721542>
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:11 PM
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9. Kerry's former liberal backers are not pleased
http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak16.html

A footnote: Sen. John Kerry, the earlier liberal favorite, did not please his former liberal backers Tuesday night when he drove onto the set of Jay Leno's NBC show dressed as a biker, on a Harley-Davidson.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:40 PM
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10. That's an absurd claim from Novak.
Liberals ride bikes, too.

Clinton was welcomed at the Harley factory in York, Pa. when he was pres. and everyone knows Kerry has been a biker for decades. Why would "liberal backers" be unhappy now?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:45 PM
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11. Clark loses liberals
Why didn't you post that part of the article? Why just beat up on Kerry?

I wish people would just stop posting this shit altogether. Discussing real issues and posting real articles on those issues is fine, but this gossip column stuff is stupid.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:46 PM
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12. You lost credibility on the other thread.
Once a person cares less for their own integrity in posting and more for trying to hurt others....it is hard to regain credibility.

Your first post in the other thread could have been misunderstanding. The 2nd one you posted was not misunderstanding.
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