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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:01 PM
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Did you see *'s astounding comments this morning?
He took a few questions, and was testy as usual. But he was dumbfounded when a reporter asked something about him being "concerned" about the visit to London at what was an "awkward political time" for him.

"Awkward??" He was stunned. "Awkward political time? For me? For me?"

He just has not a clue about how he is perceived. He kept repeating "This is going to be a fabulous trip, and I'm looking forward to it."

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:05 PM
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1. His handlers have hid the truth from him
He doesn't even read the papers, but has his staff tell him what they say (hey, maybe he can't read, or at least comprehend, I don't know). He probably is clueless as to what the Brits really feel.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:07 PM
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2. He's in for a suprise
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:07 PM
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3. idiot
he is an idiot
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:13 PM
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4. No, he appears
to have no idea what awaits him in London.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:17 PM
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5. Choices
So what are the choices?

That the information is not available to the White House or any close Staff members.

He has no ability to understand how he is perceived

He knows how he is perceived but does not care

Although he is in the best position of anyone on earth to be fully aprised of the current political situation anywhere on earth in real time he has no ability to grasp the importance of this intelligence of to comprehend it when it is presented to him.

That his advisors do not feel that his being informed is an important part of wresting decisions from him and as a consequence avoid passing information related to their/his agenda.

I am sure there are other possibilities, let's here yours.

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:12 PM
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25. Bravado?
Never let them see you sweat? A possibility.
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:18 PM
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6. What, me worry?
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 07:11 PM
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37. Har Har, too funny
;-)
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:20 PM
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7. Remember
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 04:21 PM by khephra
He doesn't read more than the headlines and the sports section (as admitted by Dubya himself) and even Faux doesn't suck up to him enough for him to watch that as well.

He gets his news from people who read the news for him, another fact he has admitted to in the past. Does anyone think they're really telling him the truth about the negative side of this trip?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:28 PM
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8. Bill Clinton probably knows the names...
of half the members of Parliament and their wives as well and their political histories.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:34 PM
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tainted_chimp Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:12 PM
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22. Certainly makes ME weak in the knees!
The man is simply more gorgeous each time I see him. Hooboy!

:evilgrin: :loveya:


~Lisa
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:14 PM
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26. I look just like him, cept younger, thinner
seriously
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tainted_chimp Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:21 PM
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29. Hmmmm!
:evilgrin:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 06:50 PM
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36. Hi tainted_chimp!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 07:36 PM
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38. I hope you're not too much thinner
Clinton's lost up to 30 pounds on the South Beach diet. ;)
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:09 PM
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18. He's Not Alone
I suspect Wesley Clark could do the same.

God Bless Robert Byrd

Thom
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:36 PM
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10. A question of the Chain of Being
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 04:37 PM by Donna Zen
Not recognizing the mewings of the serf-focus groups, junior prince of hell, can only hear the scraping of the lords and ladies knees scuttling to scoop up his royal droppings. Therefore, for me? for me? may be interrupted as so what? so what?



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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:48 PM
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11. Bubble boy
lives all alone in the bubble, isolated from life, if that idiot were to stumble in here he'd have a heart attack wouldn't he?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:16 PM
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27. bubble chimp?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:52 PM
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12. For a long time I've felt that the marionette can't write...
If you write a little, even on a forum like DU, it helps to speak your ideas. Have you ever read anything (certifiable) that the marionette has written? It would seem that if you have a Harvard Business School MBA, that you've written something. Have you heard of anything he's written?

A lot of the books and articles Gore has written appeared by title and content during the campaign (some specialists on the environment reported that his book(s?) on that subject were stellar and well researched).

It seems quite obvious that the enthroned one is coached the entire way. It only makes sense that they would protect him from information that they don't want him to read or hear so that his memory of what he is supposed to say doesn't conflict with anything he has read, because he stumbles enough with what he's been coached to say.

Contrast that with Clinton and Gore. And every one of those Democratic candidates are thousands of times brighter, with originality, with their own ability to analyze, with depth, with manifestations of study, with improvement from experience and mistakes.

He is a true marionette. He is the perfect back-slapping jacket wearing chearleader. It just seems that someone has told him what to do every inch of the way on his life's path based on what we witness.

I can't erase the inaugaration from memory - he formally shook hands with his daughters, Laura whispers in his ear, and he goes back and kisses them on the cheek. Granted it was a peak time to think things through, but it's still a social example - and we know what the business and political advice and coaching led to. I still think they knew what was in store for them by his selection, but thought they could train and coach him sufficiently.

So how dark do they keep his rooms and how much of it is back-slapping acting for 'the guys' in this country?
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:59 PM
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14. He can't possibly write. He can't talk.
I've been thinking about past Presidents. Seems to me most of them wrote many papers and after their terms were over these papers would reside, along with other important documents, in their libraries. Now, I know here in Arlington (TX) they want to donate some land next to the baseball stadium for his "library." I just can't imagine what would be in it though. I wonder if hes dyslexic??

Jazzgirl
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:23 PM
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30. Have you seen the tape where he says that the

"right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing" but raises his left hand when he says "right hand" and raises the right when he says "left hand"?

Looked pretty dyslexic to me!

It also sounds like the perfect strategy for a learning disabled (LD) person to have others tell him what the newspapers are saying. LD learners typically learn better in the auditory mode than in the visual mode. That's why they encounter problems in school, which is highly visual, most learners being visual mode learners.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 04:57 PM
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13. Bush has more important things to worry about
The Bushes should be staying on the ground floor of the Palace, in the Belgian suite, close to the indoor pool. The last time Mr Bush dined with the Queen - in 1992 at his father's White House, wearing cowboy boots emblazoned with God Save the Queen - he asked if she had any black sheep in her family.

"Don't answer that!" his mother, Barbara, interjected, trying to avoid embarrassment. This time he's the President, the man in charge. The dynamics could be significantly different.


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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:05 PM
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15. arrogance
he's definitely an idiot. but i think he can read, and i'm sure he knows how he is perceived by the rest of the world, but i really think he just doesn't care.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:08 PM
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17. He was chosen by God to lead America....and the world.
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 05:10 PM by oasis
O8)
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:12 PM
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21. Leading them straight into a hell-hole
n/t
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:20 PM
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28. very few people know that he's a huge Spinal Tap fan
The windows dirty the mattress stinks
This ain't no place to be a man
Ain't got no future, ain't got no past
And I don't think I ever can
The floor is filthy the walls are thin
The wind is howling in my face
The rats are peeling, I'm losing ground
Can't seem to join the human race

Chorus:
I'm living in a hell hole
Don't want to stay in this hell hole
Don't want to die in this hell hole
Girl, get me out of this hell hole

I rode the jetstream, I hit the top
I'm eating steak and lobster tails
The sauna's drafty, the pools too hot
The kitchen stinks of boiling snails.
The taxman's coming, the butler quit
This ain't no place to be a man
I'm going back to where I started
I'm flashing back into my pan.

Chorus:
It's better in a hell hole.

You know where you stand in a hell hole
Folks lend a hand in a hell hole
Girl get me back to my hell hole
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:08 PM
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16. Yup. Me too. I'm wondering about
what he's thinking about all this. Many possibilities. If Bush is completely ignorant about what's waiting for him in London, then he might as well throw in the towel and call it quits. I think he knows, personally. It's just that there's some disconnect in his brain. The neurons have re-spliced themselves to another neuron, so everything is haywire up there.

Notice how we're all trying to second-guess him? We're still trying to "figure him out" after 3 years of watching this guy up close. We don't know who he is.

My bet is, he's a mystery to himself.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:09 PM
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19. can't write, can barely read, so........
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:11 PM
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20. Does bush know only one adjective in his vocabulary?
"This is going to be a fabulous trip ..."

That's his favorite descriptor - fabulous. Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous. Everything is fabulous. His wife is fabulous. He's having a fabulous time wherever he goes. Has anyone else noticed that weird propensity of his to describe everything as fabulous? What the f*** is wrong with him, anyway?
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 06:17 PM
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34. "fabulous"...yeah, and his favorite verb is "prish-ate"
:grr:
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:12 PM
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23. About *Bush
A quote from DuctapeFatwa,

"Pity Great Beige Father, for whom all the dollars in the world cannot buy the ability to go into a common marketplace with his people, without a battalion or two of Dyncorp indies, and return alive, doomed is he to spend all his days blushingly pissing Karzai-like, surrounded by a crowd of gaping dollabought rentacops."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=721228
(thread on another topic)
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 05:12 PM
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24. oh yeah.....was this David Frost, or some sort of press conf?
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 05:13 PM by buycitgo
haven't heard about it anywhere else

DeLay, Fund, Gillespie, Carlson, Matthews pining for Ann Coulter

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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 06:08 PM
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31. here is something * has written
here is a poem our fabulous leader penned:

Laura Bush: "President Bush is a great leader and a husband, but I bet you didn't know he is also quite the poet. Upon returning home last night from my long trip I found a lovely poem waiting there for me."

"Roses are red
Violets are blue
Oh my lump in the bed
How I've missed you.
Roses are redder
Bluer am I
Seeing you kissed by that charming French guy.
The dogs and the cat, they missed you too
Barney's still mad you dropped him, he ate your shoe
The distance, my dear, has been such a barrier
Next time you want an adventure, just land on a carrier."

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/us/0310/bush.poem/content.1.html


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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 06:11 PM
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32. You misunderstand him
He knows he is in hot water.

The confusion came when he heard the word "akward". He does not know what it means.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 06:15 PM
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33. he thought he was being asked about a specific avian lexicon
*
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 07:43 PM
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40. I know the term he was looking for, Comer Perro,
it's called, "deep shit". He knows what THAT means!
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 06:43 PM
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35. We just saw the ***** on the news
They asked him about the deaths of the 17 soldiers in Iraq...

"It's always a sad day when someone dies," he said (I'm quoting out of memory).

I asked my very apolitical partner if she heard him slurring his words or if it was just me. She answered: "What I heard was somebody who seemed to unhappy that he had to respond to the question about the soldiers."
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 08:24 PM
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41. my sentiments exactly.
I thought exactly the same thing as your partner when I heard his comment.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 07:42 PM
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39. He is schizoid
In and out of touch with reality. Unaware of his effect on others lives.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 08:34 PM
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42. well, the diagnosis may vary
but there is no doubt that the chimps elevator stops way short of the top floor.

but the RW maniac in the WH dig it coz they know the moron will do just as he's told....
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 08:52 PM
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43. He's not testy, he's nervous
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 08:58 PM by rocknation
because he knows how vulnerable he is when he's unscripted. He knows he's only a syllable away from screwing up. You can bet he was quite pleased with himself about how he explained away Mission Accomplished banner--so pleased that he forgot to realize that it would be the easiest of lies to be caught in.


rocknation
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