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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:04 AM
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"Bush a war hero"- c-span caller
unbuckingfelievable
Paraphrase (male caller):
"Why is everboddy bad mouthin' thuh president and everything? He was a war hero down there in the Texas national guard and all and over in Viet Nam and everything."

We shouldn't allow these people to own telephones, let alone vote.
:argh: :argh: :argh:
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:07 AM
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1. Maybe he was kidding?nt
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:08 AM
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2. Just another brainwashed dumbass
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:18 AM
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5. Unhappily, no.
He sounded like a typical Muddle Murican.
Just as sure as he could be about what he was saying.
<sigh>
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myomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:37 AM
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11. Do “real” Texans kid?
.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:12 AM
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3. Umm...it was the Alabama National Guard
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 08:12 AM by jmm
and he still went AWOL :crazy:.


I hope this person was joking and wasn't serious :scared:.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:12 AM
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9. It was the Texas Air National Guard
Bu$h was a member of the Texas Air National Guard. He asked for a temporary assignment in the Alabama Guard while he worked on the 1972 campaign of Winton Bloundt. He was ordered to report to Lt. Col. Wm. Turnipseed in Montgomery to start that TDY assignment, but never showed up. That was after he had been removed from flight status in Texas because he did not take his required annual flight physical. The missed flight physical and removal from flight status pretty much marked the beginning of Bu$h's 1+ year AWOL from the Texas Air Guard. Coincidentally, that missed flight physical would have been the first for Bu$h under new military regulations requiring drug testing as a part of pilot medical examinations.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:51 AM
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15. I about choked...
when I heard that caller this morning. And NO one corrected him. The congressman that was there, if he had any honor, should have at least cleared up the man's misconceptions about * serving in Vietnam. Ridiculous!!!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:13 AM
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4. What many people don't know
Is that while President Bush was AWOL from the national guard, he was in fact engaged in a titanic struggle against aliens from another planet. Why do you think he was allowed to go AWOL with so little consequence? Surely none of us believe that his wealth or the influence of his father protected him. So there must be some other explanation.

Yes, outside a frat party, and coincidently enough after trying LSD for the first time, he realized that he had a mission to protect earth from invaders. Invaders from Space!

Fortunately the government had placed a specially designed console to control his own personal ship in a local pizzaria (always hide top secret stuff in plain sight--official CIA strategy #2332). So he spent the whole year fending off wave after wave of evil aliens with his little ship and three force fields.

So you see he is a hero. Without him, we'd all be speaking Invaderese.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:08 AM
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21. Funny! I wrote a similar one last Oct.
Bush secret military service revealed
RNS* Washington, D.C. Oct. 3, 2003
Presidential political advisor Karl Rove today made public President George W. Bush's military record for the so-called "missing" 18 months of his service in the Texas Air National Guard.

During a little publicized press conference in the Rose Garden (the White House media contingent received only 4 days notice), Rove displayed U.S. Air Force and CIA documents which put to rest for all time rumors circulating since the 1999 campaign.

"The president is a very modest man", said Rove. "He has never been one to blow his own horn. It took me 3 weeks to convince him that it would be in this great country's best interests to release this information at this time, prior to the national elections."

The documents show that the President, then 1st Lt. George W. Bush, received a secret transfer from the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron of the Texas Air National Guard to an unnamed (classified: "Top-Secret") F-102 squadron at Danang Air Base, Republic of South Viet Nam. Due to his family's notoriety, he served under the assumed name of "Norm DeGuerre". During the 18 months he served there he was credited with 10 "kills", shooting down 4 Mig-19s, and 6 Mig-21s, thus earning the title "Double Ace". He was also credited with destroying 12 heavily defended surface-to-air (SAM) sites in downtown Hanoi, Republic of North Viet Nam. For these heroic actions he was awarded the Air Medal (A.M.) and the Distinguished Flying Cross (D.F.C.)

During the 12th mission, his F-102 Delta Dagger suffered major flak damage and Lt. "DeGuerre" was forced to eject. He spent 3 weeks as a North Vietnamese prisoner of war before overpowering his guards and escaping. The trek back to U.S. forces took 7 weeks, all through snake infested jungle, during which he lived off of berries, bamboo shoots, and reptiles. At his debriefing he remarked "Those snakes sure would have tasted better if I could have cooked them, but I just couldn't risk making a fire."

Back at Danang, and just two days prior to Lt. "DeGuerre's" release from the air force, North Vietnamese Regular Army units attempted to overrun and capture this key air base. Lt. "DeGuerre" scrambled to his aircraft, and, dodging incoming mortar rounds, was able to take off on the shell-pocked runway (the only aircraft to get airborne that night) and, using napalm and rockets, single-handedly beat back the advancing armies.

For his actions "above and beyond the call of duty", Lt. "DeGuerre" received the Congressional Medal of Honor in a secret White House ceremony. George H.W. Bush, then CIA Director, pinned the medal on his son.
*Rove News Service


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SoFlaJets Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:18 AM
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6. yea and when I wanted to refute that
ignorant Clinton-hating student of the Rush(the fat junkie)Institute of really needing to know the facts and learn how to read for himself ditto head school of soft knocks.MY brother IS a Vietnam veteran who never has been the same since he came back from that war.How DARE Ray LaHood not defend the brave men and who are actully really in the realest sennnse of the word dodging bullets not PLAYING FIGHTER PILOT what a sham what a disgrace
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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:20 AM
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7. How did this caller ever get through the "screener"?
Makes you think don't it?
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The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:30 AM
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8. c-span doesn't really use screeners.....
often they'll just ask the question of support/oppose or dem/repub, and they'll ask when the last time you called in was (they want you to wait 4-5 weeks to call again after getting through).

they generally don't ask what your question will be.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:31 AM
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10. Shouldn't be allowed to vote or breed or be near small children or weapons
The average IQ is 100. There are as many people below that line as above, and I suppose there's a silver lining in the fact that most of them aren't Dems.

As my dad said: There are 2 kinds of Repugs--mean ones and stupid ones. No other kind.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:49 AM
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14. Average IQ of 100
We could only hope......

I have dim light bulbs with higher IQ's then some of these folks!
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:38 AM
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12. KKKarl....
is that you?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:47 AM
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13. alternative angle:
instead of saying he went AWOL, one could ask what unit Bush served in, when he was is Vietnam, what he did there that makes him a war hero and what medals he got for his heroic acts...



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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:52 AM
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16. I wondered if anyone else heard that - thought I was hallucinating
What I remember was more specific:

He served in the military and was a decorated war hero and did all that he could in Nam.

I thought my spouse was going to shit in the floor!
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 10:56 AM
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17. I was hoping that the Republican Congressman would
set the caller straight. He didn't, as expected, so I just screamed at the television.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:00 AM
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18. If C-span is really a public service,
the host should have corrected the caller and made it clear to all listeners/viewers that Smirk was never in Vietnam. At the very least.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:03 AM
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19. This caller probably...
claims that U.N. Black Hellicopters circling over his house.
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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 11:04 AM
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20. I think this shows me that television is a dying medium
and people will rely upon it less and less for its lacklustre incapability of providing factual information.
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