What % of Southern whites vote Democratic?

_Jumper_

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:26 PM
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What % of Southern whites vote Democratic?

Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 07:41 PM by _Jumper_

20%? 30%? I need to know for a debate with conservatives.

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Terwilliger

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:28 PM
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1. no worries

just appeal to their racist tendencies and I'm sure they'll vote Dem (hmmm...how does a liberal appeal to a racist? hmmmmmmm)

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mmonk

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:33 PM
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2. Your remarks are offensive

People in the south vote both parties (if you look at the governors, senators, etc). Even us white ones who you say are racist due to our geographical place of birth.

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jpgray

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:35 PM
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3. I think Ter was making an oblique dig at Dean (nt)

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alexwcovington

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:37 PM
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4. Still offensive

Because we've been over this, that was not what Dean was doing.

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jpgray

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:47 PM
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6. Right. IMO, using the Confederate flag was still a mistake, though

I wouldn't say Dean meant ot pander to racist tendencies, but he used the wrong symbol to identify Southerners--he would have been better off to use one that was less divisive. Dean's goal was to get more votes, and I agree with his campaign that the South could be competitive for Democrats in 2004, with the right candidate and the right campaign.

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mmonk

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:42 PM
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5. oh sorry

I get it now. Still....ha never mind.

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jpgray

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Mon Nov-17-03 07:48 PM
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7. No big deal

Dean supporters will probably come along any time now and rip his lungs out. :)

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MissMarple

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Mon Nov-17-03 08:03 PM
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8. Where is Jiacinto when we really need him?

Ask Carlos, he knows all this stuff. Or, he can find it ASAP. The kid's a genius with election statistics.

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jiacinto

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Mon Nov-17-03 08:39 PM
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13. I am travelling across the country

But I will say that it probably varies from race to race. That's the best answer I can give.

The general rule of thumb that I know of is that Democrats need anywhere from 30-40% of the white vote to win statewide races in the South.

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HFishbine

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Mon Nov-17-03 08:06 PM
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9. I'd be gald to help

Edited on Mon Nov-17-03 08:06 PM by HFishbine

But since the thread's been hijacked by Dean bashers, I decline.

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Jacobin

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Mon Nov-17-03 08:08 PM
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10. What percentage of midwestern whites vote democratic?

I'm talkin' all that red shit all over the map from Indiana waaaaaay out west.

BTW, we know from the last two elections that Louisiana votes Dem.

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_Jumper_

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Mon Nov-17-03 08:41 PM
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14. They vote for moderate-to-conservative Dems, though

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jpgray

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Mon Nov-17-03 08:15 PM
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11. To get back on topic, we know from LA and 1996 that they are competitive

With the right candidate, and some actual *campaigning* in the South, I think we could do a great deal of good raising awareness about the issues, and get ourselves some votes in the bargain.

Here are some charts from the http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=751">Pew Research Center:

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jpgray

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Mon Nov-17-03 08:37 PM
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12. kick (nt)

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Agathias

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Mon Nov-17-03 09:24 PM
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15. Used to be a majority, for decades

Just look at election results from the '20s-'50s. 'Dixiecrat' isn't a cliche for nothing. Democrat numbers started dropping during the peak of the Civil Rights movement, over the very issue Dean gaffed on. Now it is VERY mixed / marginal in most Southern states.

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