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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 10:59 PM Original message |
Who thinks we need a new government? |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. No more electoral college, no more 2nd amendment, corporations would |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
95. The first thing |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Who will "screen the candidates?" |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Hell the only amendment left standing is the 2nd because it's no threat to |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Well, don't they have to go to the registrar's office to file? |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. I am opposed |
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Some Moran (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Corporations were never given that right... |
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JaySherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. of, by, for... life, liberty, happiness |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Exactly what I mean. We have to start over again. |
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JaySherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I don't think it's about dumping the Constitution... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. So you just think we shouldn't even talk about it. |
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JaySherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Quite the contrary... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 01:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. So you hit on the core of what I was trying to get to. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. You know what Jefferson said on this subject... |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
11. Actually I like the Constitution as it is |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-03 11:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Too many loopholes and ambiguities need to be fixed first. |
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Johnyawl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I like the loopholes and ambiguities ! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. This is why most of us shouldn't write it but you just |
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Johnyawl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. We already have that, it's called impeachment |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Much of these ideas |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So what is your suggestion to get the intelligencia to |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
97. Electoral College a relic |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. New ways of war |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Considering at the time of the Revolutionary war |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I disagree |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Shouldn't it at least address this? |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. How exactly |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
93. like I said, if we just play it like it stands, its fine |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
13. Do you really think that only Liberals would do the rewriting? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The West Coast as a country would work for me. |
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jackcgt (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
22. It'll never happen... |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
24. I would codify.. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Giving the press the access it needs is very necessary |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. True democracy |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Well, where it has been tried, it works pretty well. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. And where is that |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
25. Eh, there's one catch to this :-) |
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Adjoran (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
26. Neither necessary, nor proper |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I hope you aren't referring to the majority of votes |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. why do you think/how can you say Shrub got in by a majority of votes? |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. Change the Elected Officials not the Constitution. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
98. I'd like to see more amendments |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. The Constitution is just fine as it is; science has little to do with it |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I have to disagree with every point of disagreement you made with me. |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. But why a brand new government or constitution |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Read Q's post here and you will see why. |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I read it and I don't buy the new constitution arg still |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Ok, typing issue strong should have been stronger |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
100. Agree Norcom, but |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
99. Best part of the Constitution is |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. You seem to be exaggerating things to an unwarranted degree. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Gee, I can't afford medication for my husband and myself |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I get the feeling |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Well, you're wrong. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. If you think |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Gee I wish I could afford that medication. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. That you can sit here |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 07:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
102. Perhaps |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Reactionary response |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
67. I trust Madison, Jefferson, and Franklin... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. This is what you are missing |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Wrong again. |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:11 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Woh that is harsh... Clieta |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Response |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. This is not so. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Questions |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. Meet your needs? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Yes, because you have a job that enables you to afford all |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Your crazy |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. Geez, gimme a break. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. again |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. That is not a right of any kind. It's an entitlement. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Let me explain it to you, it is an entitlement, which I have |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Are you always walking around |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Hey I'm sixty three years old. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Its not out? |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. The #1 mistake is expecting SS/Medicare to cover retirement. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Tell that |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. I have a nest egg. It has provided less and less income |
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SahaleArm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Nest egg in securities. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. So according to you, I should have paid all my life |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Not at all |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. appreciate if you could |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Hard to believe |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Question |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. This is soooo mean I am sputtering now. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I notice you are supporting Howard Dean |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Response |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. I'm not. I'm telling you what you're not entitled to. |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. yeah right vote with your feet as you move on to the next employer who |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Here is a noval idea |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. banks don't give loans to women......but then again that is probably why |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Banks don't 'give' loans to anyone. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Sure |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Why |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Well, gosh. I guess that clears it up. Women just can't get a break |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. Nothing works if it is NOT USED. People are not voting, nor even |
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The Commie (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
92. My Ideas Are... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 07:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Why not get rid |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
94. I have been talking about this for years. |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 08:30 PM Response to Reply #94 |
104. CORRECTION |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
96. We don't need a new constitution |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 07:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. A few changes |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
105. One is coming whether we like it or not |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
106. Representation for DC residents n/t |
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