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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:47 PM
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Where has Traitorgate gone?
Haven't heard a peep about it for weeks. I hope it's not dead. Damn!
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:50 PM
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1. All rush, all the time. The diversion went as planned!
WELL DONE!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:04 PM
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5. That was the point of this thread:
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:22 PM
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10. This sounds like blackmail
"The only way the media is forced into allowing them the camera time is if Kerry is the nominee. "

um . like "Kerry" gets no air time?

There are none so blind ..
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:32 PM
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16. No...the point is the media keeps them from getting airtime now
Edited on Tue Nov-18-03 02:35 PM by blm
during the primary. I point out the media has less control of who speaks from Kerry's campaign if he's the nominee. This is a true statement of fact.

Considering your guy's remarks about supporters not being "transferable" you have no room to point fingers charging blackmail.

So noone is misled by the poster's charge:

John Kerry assembled a team to confront Bush on the issues Rove wants to take to the American people in 2004. National security and the fear of terrorism. No doubt, the last thing Rove needs are experts in those areas speaking out during the general election against Bush and for the Democratic opponent.

Gary Hart, knows more about national security and antiterrorism measures than any national figure. He is the author of the Hart-Rudman report which was delivered to Bush in Jan. 2001 after a 2 1/2 year study commissioned by Clinton. The report wasn't dealt with at all prior to 9-11.

Rand Beers, former National Security Official, knows the inner workings of the Bush team's post 9-11 efforts, of which he observed mostly inertia and incompetence.

Max Cleland, 9-11 commission, knows the Bush team is trying to pull a fast one on the American people by covering up crucial information of dealings that led to 9-11. Has been speaking out to groups across the country, and swinging the AWOLSTICK as a bonus.

Gen. William Perry, Clinton's expert on nuclear arms proliferation and N. Korea, knows Bush's failures on the serious Korea issue and his incompetence in dealing with its threat.

Joe Wilson, the man who knows TOO much. Exposed Cheney's office as the source for cooked intelligence reports on Iraq. Also alerted public to treasonous acts by White House in exposing his wife, an undercover CIA agent. Many in intel community aligning with Wilson and his wife against the WH.

The media is loathe to give these men the airtime at this point because they are too damaging to Bush on his perceived strengths. They can afford to ignore them and the substance of their case against Bush because they are selling the American people the "process" of the primary horserace as entertainment. If Kerry were the nominee, the media would have no choice but to feature his spokespeople on the various issues.

Kerry assembled a team to TAKE BUSH DOWN, while some others assembled a team to take Kerry down. Democrats need to take this into consideration. BushInc. NEEDS these men and their message muted.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:50 PM
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2. Far, far away.
I'm afraid.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:54 PM
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3. down the memory hole...like most everything else
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:04 PM
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4. Sure looks that way
:-(
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:12 PM
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8. Down the Memory Hole
(Ashcroft is on the job...in other words nothing will be done...100% chance)

Orwell was absolutely right, he was just 17 years too early with his title.

Goddamned, do I miss living in a Free Country where it wasn't so easy to predict the future.

Of course, during the successive reigns of Emperor Jeb, Ahnold, and George P. Caligula upcoming, having an easily predictable future (once you realize we are no longer free but live in an increasingly Ferdinand Marcos-style Totalitarian-Orwellian Oligarchic Empire) will be the LEAST of our problems.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:21 PM
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9. Arnold can't become president
and unless the Constitution is amended. But the other Bushes probably are waiting in the wings. :-(
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:24 PM
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12. There is already a measure on the books proposing that the rules be
changed for presidency specifically so AS can get in.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:07 PM
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6. Dead as a doornail - just like I told you it would be.
It's Teflon President 2 - the revenge. :)
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:11 PM
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7. Of course, multiple investigations didn't bring down Clinton
I guess it didn't make sense to assume one DOJ investigation would bring down Bush, even if the leak was treasonous. (Yes, I know most of the Clinton "scandals" were way overblown.)
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:23 PM
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11. I don't hear no fat lady.
What's Asscrat going to report? He has to report something and that will bring it up again and maybe at a more opportune time as the deserters numbers keep tumbling. DO NOT give up. The CIA will not be able to give it up.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:28 PM
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13. If it was just one investigation,
it wouldn't be a problem. It's this investigation and a bunch more, and all of them seem to be dead. That's the problem. And this one is particularly smelly, because whoever did this committed treason.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:28 PM
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14. Methinks it's not dead yet - it's more like a time bomb. . .
set by some CIA people to explode at the given moment.

or like adult chickenpox. . .
Or when you first get the chickenpox as a kid. Once you have it, the virus never completely dies; it lies dormant until it manifests itself again in your adulthood, in the form of shingles.

I had the shingles this summer, so I know.

:nuke:
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 02:31 PM
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15. Time bomb
Set to go off around Oct, 2004 from what I hear....
:clasping hands together in prayer:
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
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