Food for thought - Paleo-cons=liberals' natural allies

Possibly we could work somewhat with the paleo-cons to counter the Bush-bots, freepers and other boot-lickers who sell out their country to bloodthirsty reprobates(Rummy).

http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp

Though we may differ on many fundamental subjects (reproductive rights, death penalty, church/state issues, immigration, etc.), paleocons also have a natural fear of privacy invasion and preemptive war/nation building. I guess that's one reason the ACLU hired Bob Barr!

I don't know how long it would last, but the paleos dislike the freeps and neos as much as we do.

Buchanan, Novak, elder Buckley?

But I don't think poor confused Bob is sure, either.


The guy gives crappy examples, and it is on NRO(an Ann-thrax free, NRO), but you can glean some good stuff from the article.

I've talked with a few paleo-conservatives, not physically old, but they think Bush and Ashcroft are idiots, and Rummy is a war criminal.

Snip:
You may know the names of these antiwar conservatives. Some are famous: Patrick Buchanan and Robert Novak. Others are not: Llewellyn Rockwell, Samuel Francis, Thomas Fleming, Scott McConnell, Justin Raimondo, Joe Sobran, Charley Reese, Jude Wanniski, Eric Margolis, and Taki Theodoracopulos.

But the antiwar conservatives have gone far, far beyond the advocacy of alternative strategies. They have made common cause with the left-wing and Islamist antiwar movements in this country and in Europe. They deny and excuse terror. They espouse a potentially self-fulfilling defeatism. They publicize wild conspiracy theories. And some of them explicitly yearn for the victory of their nation's enemies. \


Jeez... this whole article is an ATTACK on the paleo's, Novak & Buchanan in particular. Frum doesn't appear to like them too much... maybe there's hope?

But if the paleos can muster this much ire, they gotta be alright.

If you go read *some* of the articles at:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/

a paleo-con site you can see that they hold
a value for law and rights that is missing
from the neo-con that run the show these days.

I have thought that progressives and the old
right are closer that either likes to think.

regardless of their ideological slant, i think honest, informed, principled, freedom-loving individuals would have to agree - Bush* is an unmitigated disaster.

Paleocons are not our friends....jesus..you people are quick to slam greens and befriend fucking wacko wingnuts!!!

If my house is burning down, I don't much care about the politics of the firemen.
For the record, I have never slammed a Green or knowingly befriended a wingnut.
Politics DOES make strange bedfellows! Just look around DU...

except the ones in Flordia in 2000.

in "safe" states and elections go green if
you want. But in close races please please
vote democratic.

and many do not like the fact that the 'wingnuts' have taken over the GOP.