right winger wants to know why we hate Bush*

Hey, it's my first original post! So, my wife's right-wing cousin posted to a forum she runs. He wants to know why we all "hate" Chimpy. Here's what he says:

I notice among (you) a hatred for President George W. Bush yet no explanation or justification for such strong feelings. I've asked this in person and gotten a fairly consisent, "because" and a look that tells me I should already know. Answering like that is stupid and does nothing to further the argument against him.
I submit that this thread contain only level-headed and well-thought out arguements backed with enough fact to form a valuable and solid opinion. This is not a time to regurgitate what others say, nor is it a time to level any greivances against the republican party. I want to know what Bush did to YOU or what you strongly beleive in to generate this hatred. I want ORIGNIAL thought, ORIGINAL insight, and even handedness regarding the truth.

Here's what I say:

First off, I don't hate Bush. If I hated him, I would say horrible things about his wife, and obsess about his personal indiscretions as though they were important to his leadership skills. We saw a lot of that last decade. I don't hate Bush, I just think his policies are disastrous for the nation.

Here's a few issues I have with Bush's presidency:

-3 million lost jobs since Bush took office -- he's the first president since Hoover to see a net loss of jobs while in office
-turned a $100 billion budget surplus into a $400 billion deficit
-funding to states has been cut, mostly as a result of that deficit, so sales tax and college tuition both skyrocket
-took massive goodwill and support from the international community following September 11 and turned it into widespread distrust -- check out the protests this week from our close allies in the UK
-signed a law that prevents doctors from saving the life of a pregnant woman under certain circumstances
-has presided over the death of 423 American soldiers in Iraq, in a war that hasn't turned up any weapons of mass destruction, has done nothing to find Osama bin Laden, and has resulted in $100 billion of taxpayer money going overseas when we could really use some help in this country

What else could I add? (And are my numbers right?)

Thanks for reading!

and is waging a war on our freedom via ashcroft and the pat act

Under John Ashcroft, there's a almost gleeful assault on our civil liberties. Never, IMO, has our basic freedoms been in such danger as this Adminstration.

Terry

Brother helped engineer election coup in Florida,

Sytematically gutting the environment,

Supports the erosion of Civil Rights via Patriot Act,

Wants to eleminate the middle class through tax cuts to the wealthy,

Supports the loss of good American jobs through outsourcing,

......

I could go on.

I think it is over $140 billion for Iraq if you include the $87 billion.

And, you can also add the record number of bankruptcies...

And, how the Patriot Act is being used to spy on strip joints...while our ports and airports are questinably only slightly safer than they were before September 11th.

His 2000 campaign was a complete and total lie and he has no intelligence, couth, or statesmanship. He's a horrible representative of America, and only right-wing lunatics supported him before the ever-more-idiotic Republican "mainstream" gave him their backing.

he has ruined civil rights (Patriot Act and Guatanomo Bay), environment, political discourse, he has looted the national treasury for the benefit of his friends and supporters, he has led the nation into war based on lies, misunderstandings, and simple revenge, he has broken his campaign promises regarding nation-building, social security, and jobs, he has been secretive, his administration has named a CIA agent and a CIA cover-company and has shown very little interest in the matter, he did not respond diligently to the 9-11 tragedy leaving a lot of people wondering if his administration knew more than they are telling, he has hidden documents from public disclosure, he has tricked the public into believing that he supports domestic programs such as public schools and then doesn't fund them, he has taken hundreds of billions of dollars from the national treasury for Halliburton and other companies with right-wing leadership, and he has killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

Do I hate Bush because he is a Republican, a Texan, a white male, a meat-eater? Certainly not. I hate George W. Bush and all of his people because they have done an incredible amount of damage to this nation I hold so dear. I hate them because they are professional liars, thieves, brigands without conscience. I hate them, fully and completely, on the record.

more: http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/102203A.shtml

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his neo-con administration is on the bleeding edge of the far right.

Broke his campaign promises. So far he's Conservative, but far from compassionate.

effectively driven a wedge down America and got Americans to be called traitors by other Americans.

he's a dumbass and foreigners think Americans are stupid because of him

And for them to give the same kinds of arguments--based not on rhetoric, emotions or talking points, but on the same original thought and argument they want from us!

As for "even-handedness regarding the truth," that has a whiff of a copout. The truth IS the truth. It's not "evenhandedness" to say that Clinton did it, too.


rocknation

We can start with being an illegitimate holder of the Presidency to begin with. (Ask her how the pod people would react if Al took office in that fashion.)

Shady and illegal business practices: Enron, Funeralgate, his ownership of the Texas Rangers to name a scant few

Being Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces of this country and not having fulfilled his military obligations himself. He went AWOL.

Raping a teenager in Texas and forcing her to abort the child after she was pregnant.

There are many more inclusive lists floating around here but you get the idea. This is truly a vile little man.

Conservatives have made the hatred of liberals the foundation of their politics, and have spewed their hatred in particular of Carter and Clinton, who were by no means liberals. A right-wing talk show host in the 1990's called for the triple assassination of the Clintons and Gore, was fired for it, sued to get her job back on the grounds that the station knew when it hired her that this was her programming content -- and won. Why did she hate Clinton? Why did her listeners had Clinton? In another post I mentioned a member of my congregation, a lonely conservative, who had to be reminded to hate the French -- although he didn't need any reminder to hate Hillary. Why did Mr. Bush instruct his cult follower conservatives to hate the French? Why would a unitarian engineer, who happens to be a conservative, hate Hillary so much he says he might move to France -- wups, um, Italy -- if she were elected president?

Because hate is the apple pie of American politics, and the conservatives have made it so.

Because sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, IDIOTS!!

what makes them think we only hate Bush? Do they realize how much hatred they have created toward all Repbulicans and Conservatives, including themselves?

U.S. renews ties with repressive Equatorial Guinea _ rich in oil, poor in human rights

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/11/16/international0122EST0411.DTL

If he really cared about freedoms, he would take over Equatorial Guinea.

2) John Ashcroft
3) he's corrupt (Enron, Halliburton etc.)
4) He's a liar (WMDs etc)
5) HE STOLE THE FRICKIN ELECTION!
6) He only cares about the rich & corporations
7) Never worked a day in his life
8) He stole a US Presidential Election
9) He invaded Iraq, making the US and the world a less safe place
10) He stole the election
11) if the right wingers can loathe Clinton for no good reason,we can hate Bush for STEALING THE ELECTION.
12) He's an idiot.

he is the most dangerous leader on the planet. Finally this is even being mentioned in the Press by someone. His alliance with Israel is very dangerous to EVERYONE, his policies in South America, his admin.'s attitude towards the UN, Europe, Canada, Mexico....(insert country name here) is threatening, bullying, frightening and criminal. Tell her to open her eyes!

And an excellent jab at their hatred for the former president right up front. One thing you should add is that Bush* just appears to be stupid. You want someone more intelligent representing this country and not some tobacco chewing hick from Texas.

Did you get a response?

Still waiting to hear back. It sort of bothers me that I can fire off some really good points in writing, but if I had been in the same room with the guy, I would've gotten all flustered and hardly said anything at all.

Ken Lay trading contributions for Energy legislation, Drug Industry for the new Medicare bill feeding 61+% of the funding into their pockets, greed in the Financial Industries to steal their way through investor's accounts getting fined and walking away with billions....

To say that Bush and company is "conservative" is laughable.

This Adminstration has an agenda, IMO. To dismantle every remanant of the New Deal and the social programs after. Social Security, Medicare, Head Start to name but a few...all are on a "hit list" of programs that powerful people in and out of this Administration wants eliminated. That's one reason for the massive budget deficits we have now. To drastically cut or elminate funding all together of these social programs.

I have this saved for this exact reason. Hope it helps. :)

George W. Bush Resume

Past work experience:

Ran for congress and lost.

Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.

Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.

With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments: Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.

Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as president:

Attacked and took over two countries.

Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.

Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history.

Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. (http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her).

Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the history of the United States.

Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.

Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.

Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).

All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.

Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.

In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References:

At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.

Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review.

For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (They can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)

A BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY

Bush is selling our children's natural heritage to his industrial donors.
His New Source Review Rule will weaken the Clean Air Act, and will increase the number of children and elderly with lung disease who become ill and die.
His administration's assault on the Clean Water Act will remove 90% of the West's rivers from regulation, and threaten community water supplies, sport and commercial fisheries, and wetlands critical to habitat for wildlife (and people who like to hunt).
His administration lied about the threat posed by toxic exposures in New York following 9/11. Many of the heroes - brave volunteers and NY city workers who toiled there for immediately after the attacks and for months afterwards now suffer from chronic respiratory ailments.
His administration wants to open drilling along the Eastern Front in Montana and Wyoming, a beautiful area of critical importance to the tourist industry, and an area important to outdoor enthusiasts (including hunters and fishers, who oppose this initiative).

Of course the person asking this should be looked at stupidly - the question should be, how on earth could any human being with a shred of intelligence, unless they are a radical conservative, support this man?

He lies about everything.

WMDS
Hugging the mothers of our fallen soldiers
War was a last resort
He understood the seriousness of war
Blaming the navy for putting up the mission accomplised sign

Covering up the WILSON affair and the outing of a CIA superspy.

ask people to name a Bush Administration policy/action that they feel is beneficial to the United States and its citizens. Tax cuts don't count because that's an excuse that can be easily dissected. it's hard for most people to name something concrete (because, imho, Bush has not done a single thing for the benefit of this country.)

He has done and continues to thwart a complete investigation into the events before and after Sept 11 that allowed this country to be so vulnerable.( Why unless there is something to hide?) Ask any of the surviving families if they are pleased with the way this misadministration has failed them. Not to mention the way the events of Sept. 11 were distorted and manipulated by him to the point of taking us to war with a country that had NO CONNECTION whatsoever with the attacks.

I am bothered that people assume the attacks on 9/11 were inevitable. "Think about how it would have been under Gore!" they say.

"How do you know this would have happened under Gore?" I ask.

(Complete silence.)

My major grievance is that Bush was at the helm when the largest terrorist attack in America occurred, and he has not convinced me that it was not his fault.

there is evidence of intelligence warning prior to 9/11/2001. Michael Moore talks about this in his latest book.

"Furthermore, White House Counter-terrorism chief Richard A. Clarke confirms that the CIA fully anticipated an impending Al-Qaeda attack on U.S. soil in June 2001, and that the entire intelligence community was alerted by the beginning of July, just over six weeks prior to 11th September."

and

"Warnings indicated that Project Bojinka would be implemented in the next several weeks. The World Trade Center was a confirmed target of Project Bojinka."

from http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq36.html#_Toc9410688

Bush and his administration did nothing with these warnings. 9/11/2001 may not have been his fault. But he did nothing to prevent it. The intelligence was written off as "Clintonian" and ignored (even though the WTC was attacked in 1993, making it an entirely believable target.) This is why the Bush Administration is fighting the 9/11/2001 commission--they don't want it revealed that there were intelligence warnings prior to 9/11/2001 that they ignored!

Why does this not bother the repukes? Denial, perhaps?

Iraq:
If Bush said; we're going to take out Saddam because he's beyond our control, he has a fifth rate military and he's sitting on top of a sea of oil, I think most of us would have told Bush hell no. So he fed us a web of lies; eminent threat, cahoots with terrorists, mushroom cloud… He insults those of us who understand global power. Iraq was a piss ant that couldn't even defend its own air space. A dictator, Saddam, who held total power for more than 30 years, smoked Cuban cigars, liked his porn and good looking women and shit in gold plated toilets instantly lost his mind after 9/11 and was going to throw away his fortune and country and give a WMD to a religious fanatic who shits in caves. If what happened wasn't real it would be a really bad movie.

Bush- a rich mans president at the wrong time in history.

-Bush* along with his croonies in congress have set about destroying medicare and social security by creating massive deficits that will in the future undermine it.

-He is destroying the middle class by supporting on-going trade aggreements that deplete the country's manufacturing base.

-He is cutting overtime for workers yet giving huge tax cuts to the wealthiest in this country.

-He is destroying Head Start by block granting it. The congress is going ahead with this dispicable plan even though results showed that this program worked.

-His "No Child Left Behind Act" is an absolute farce. School systems are easily manipulating test scores and attendance records that now mask the problem instead of truly solving it.


-His attack on Affirmative Action at the University of Michigan by filing a brief on behalf of the plaintiff in the case was deplorable. He then had the unmittigated gall to attend an AA church on Martin Luther King's birthday to tell them that they should be glad about it because it was King's dream.

-Lies about the War in Iraq and their entire handling of the situation. This is a blood war for money.

-Elimination of the non-profiteering clause in the 87 billion dollar Iraq package

There are so many other things that are objectionable these are just a few.

To sit down with me while I go over the list of reasons?

I have never heard the man tell the truth... Wait. One time. When he admitted that Hussien had nothing to do with 9/11. Of course that was after he had been lying about it for a year. :puke:

First case in point, his tax cuts: The original rationale for them was that since there was a surplus, it was just paying back what it was "overcollecting" (I put that in quotes because his people put out phoney numbers to pursuade people that important programs and services would not have to be cut, and because obviously paying down the national debt was not a priority to him, as it is to me).
After the economic numbers were less rosy and even as they nose-dived, there was no change in his plan, just in his rhetoric: the cuts were rechristened as stimulus packages, even though their greatest effects would be long-term, not short-term as a proper stimulus package should be. It's been thus ever since.

When conditions change radically and the purported reasons for the policy change with them, but the policy itself doesn't change, it stands to reason that the policy is being pushed for his own reasons, and all the talk about it being for the greater good is just so much rhetorical smoke to cover his tracks.

The second case is, obviously, Iraq. Nearly his entire circle of top advisors has been advocating a full invasion of Iraq and other Middle-Eastern countries for over a decade (although, significantly, combatting international terrorism (except against Israel) was not one of their reasons for doing so). However, once they hold the reins of power (and after having put counterterrorism on the back-burner and reduced resources to it, then implying it's entirely the fault of the previous administration that they were caught flatfooted by a major terrorist attack), they again spouted whatever rhetoric would gain public support for their agenda: in this case, the yearlong rhetorical mixing of Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, 9/11, Iraq, and weapons of mass destruction.

could have hoped to do, so I'm just going to say, "Yeah, what you said."

I don't hate the guy, either. I just wish he wasn't the one in charge.

http://www.gregpalast.com/columns.cfm?subject_id=1&subject_name=Theft%20of%20Presidency

Lied about WMD

Lied about Saddam link with Al Qaeda.


Uninformed and incompetant. He admitted he doesn't read newspapers.


religiously insane, and narcisstic. Thinks he talks to god, and thinks his decisions are gods decisions. Told palestinians that god told him to invade Iraq.

Uses our soldiers as props to convey a phony image. Look at what he did on the USS Abraham Lincoln. He landed on the carrer pretending to be a fighter ace, when in fact the got out of serving in Viet Nam by joining the guards, then he went awol for over a year. I actually dislike the press more then him because the press wouldn't call him on it. They would call Clinton on it, and more.

It STARTS with the stolen election and the subverting of the Constitution and our right to vote and have EVERY vote count.
The trashing of the Kyoto accords and so many other treaties we'd already agreed to, partnerships with other countries that we summarily threw on the floor and wiped our feet upon.
Swaggering around with this "my way or the highway" attitude - to EVERYONE from our allies to the UN to people he supposedly should be trying to work with on the other side of the political aisle.
Fomenting anger, dishonesty, hate throughout the country - why would such a man call the hatemonger Rush Limbaugh a "national treasure?" Trashing our economy, our surplus, and his designs for our social safety net - aiming to turn back every progressive improvement and quality-of-life enhancement/protection our laws allowed.
For leaving EVERY child behind - unless they're born into wealthy families.
For the evil he inadvertently tipped his hand about, in the very beginning of his illgotten-gain "administrattion" - "it would be a whole lot easier if this was a dictatorship and I was the dictator." That wasn't just a joke or an idle wish - that was his master plan.
For trashing the environment and compromising our clean air, clean water, clean earth.
For letting the robber barons get away with everything, and making sure there are no regulators able to dog their heels and make them accountable.
For lying about, and misrepresenting, EVERYTHING about his past, most egregiously his military record.
For sending Americans dearest into a war he had to LIE HIS WAY INTO - for lying to the world, for having everyone around him lie to the world - and oh yes, george, have you hugged any AMERICAN widows lately? Been to any funerals?
For further suppressing truth in the media - how many are covering the body bags, transfer tubes, and coffins coming back from Iraq?
For turning his back on those in need so those NOT in need can be made more comfortable.
For his phony baloney "I got religion, God has anointed me" crap. Hell, he'd hang himself on the cross if he thought it'd help his poll numbers.
For disregarding EVERYTHING that came his way regarding terrorist warnings, advisories, studies, blue-ribbon panel recommendations, recommendations from the folks who'd spent eight years on the issue, and then anointing himself in the blood of the 9/11 victims so he can play on America's fears and get his way.
For his meanspiritedness, whether it's making public jokes at the expense of a balding reporter or embracing a soulless jackass like KKKarl Rove.
For DOOMING us, economically - and I don't mean JUST the safety net so many people no longer have or the tax cuts that will bankrupt not only our federal treasury but those of the states as well (I think they call it "trickle down!") but dooming us to be shackled to the sinking ship of dependence on rapidly vanishing fossil fuels.

He had a SHINING MOMENT, standing there in the rubble of the World Trade Center, when he could have redefined our national agenda and purpose as JFK did in the early 60's when he declared we should aim for the moon by the end of the decade. Shrub could have challenged Americans from individual citizens to the captains of industry to reinvent the American Dream and Yankee Ingenuity, and solve our energy problems in a whole new 21st Century way. It could have been a thrilling, vibrant, energizing national project like the space race. It could have set us on a brilliant, innovative course toward a stronger future, led us out of harm's way in the Middle East (where we're stuck in an irrevocable hostage hold because that's basically where the oil is), and fired up research and development - AND JOBS - like gangbusters!!! And the oil industry could have helped steer this by being shown what could be in it for them, too! They could have been made partners in this to take the lead and bring all their resources to bear on this and yes it would have resulted in a major moneymaker for them, too. AND EVERYBODY could have been a part of it, from the smallest child recycling one plastic bottle or baby food jar! SHIT!!!

For those reasons, I do, indeed, HATE bush. "Hate" is the only word that even comes close to describing my complete and utter revulsion for the "man."
I hate him for every tear shed by every weeping mom as she cuddles the folded flag she was just handed from her son's coffin.
I hate him for every moment of hopelessness in a guy trying in vain to find a decent-paying job so he can keep the wolves away from his family's door.
I hate him for every drop of poisons and pollutants that are now allowed to seep into our planet because he's allowed the "regulators" (those he hasn't dismissed or defanged) to turn their backs while his pirate buddies generate industrial wreckage.
I hate him for every word of venom, intolerance, derision and demonization he AND HIS MANY MINIONS heap, unchecked and unchallenged, upon those who'd dare to disagree with his Imperial Lordship.
I hate him for the "IGMFU" mentality he is championing, and encouraging, and that is now being allowed to thrive in this country. "IGMFU" by the way - an acronym for "I GOT MINE, F-YOU." It's the true spirit of the republican party, and of him as its poster child and guiding light. It is the philosophy of The Party of Cain - the folks who've made it our newest National Pasttime to quote that lovely question that Cain put to God - "am I my brother's keeper?" The message being sent out, far and wide, loud and clear, is that - NO, YOU'RE NOT! SCREW 'EM! EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!! I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SHARE!! TOUGH TOOTIES FOR THE POOR, UNINSURED, AND UNEMPLOYED!!! Oh yes, and God will provide. Right?

Everybody else's responses about Chimpy is right on, but I'm suprised that nobody has thought to call this wing-nut for his own accusation.

I notice among (you) a hatred for President George W. Bush yet no explanation or justification for such strong feelings. I've asked
this in person and gotten a fairly consisent, "because" and a look that tells me I should already know. Answering like that is stupid
and does nothing to further the argument against him.
I submit that this thread contain only level-headed and well-thought out arguements backed with enough fact to form a valuable and
solid opinion. This is not a time to regurgitate what others say, nor is it a time to level any greivances against the republican party. I
want to know what Bush did to YOU or what you strongly beleive in to generate this hatred. I want ORIGNIAL thought, ORIGINAL
insight, and even handedness regarding the truth.

I could say...

First you take the ridiculous line that anybody who thinks Bush is a terrible President automatically is obsessed with uncontrollable hatred for them. That's a pretty thoughtless, and shallow way to think on your part, even if you came up with that all on your own, which you didn't. It came straight from the RNC, and has been the main talking point for quite a few months. Repeating it often enough doesn't make this any more true that it was when your gurus first pulled it out of their asses.

Then, you have the audacity to expect any of us to only respond with "level-headed and well-thought out arguements<sic>...blah, blah, blah.", when you, yourself are guilty of the very same "regurgitation of what others say" that you don't want from any of us. You seem to think that we hate Bush, and that is an undisputable given. I will not be defined by you, or any other of my political opponents, and thus I reject your insipid idea that just because we think Georgie-Boy is "not fit for duty Sir!", we are filled with hatred for him. Most liberals (if you ever shut up long enough to actually listen to what we have to say, because we actuall do have PLENTY "of justification for such strong feelings") are adults, and we can actually think in shades of gray, not just on levels of black/white or hate/worship as Christ. Furthermore, the shallow idea that we automatically hate Bush is a notion so moronic that it's not even worth responding to. You don't have the last word in defining the terms of this debate, Pal.

Edited for a bad cut/paste job.

my wife and all her friends use to keep in touch. But I'll definitely add some of your points to my list. (Adding them all might result in bandwidth problems. :D)

Coservatives react to hatred of Bush with shock and alarm and chiding. Hate is bad, you know.

Douglas MacKinnon wrote in yesterday's Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

"Hate" is a strong, obscene and destructive word, and yet it is being uttered with more frequency by many on the left and by many who should know better. The crass and childish name-calling directed at Bush by candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination not only creates more hate and anger but should bring shame to those in that party who would choose statesmanship and honor over insults and partisanship. (Douglas MacKinnon, "Hate Is Everywhere and Gets Us Nowhere," The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, November 19, 2003)

MacKinnon goes on to say (you'll love this), "To be fair, hate was the fuel that energized many on the right during their diatribes against former President Clinton."

Oh, yes, we have to be fair, don't we? After more than a decade of unrelenting, visceral, viscious, destructive hate coming at the Left from the Right, the Democratic Party base finally has roused itself and demanded that its leaders stop being appeasers and fight back, dammit. And the Right is shocked to see the face of hate, proving they rarely look into mirrors. (Or maybe they look but don't cast a reflection. That was a joke.)

Read more here.

Bush is a crook. His recent rap sheet should include:

He went along with the conspiracy behind Selection 2000, literally "taking" office.

He benefitted from the ENRON Energy Policy which bilked Californians out of billions.

He knew terrorists were planning to hijack American airliners, but failed to warn the airlines, airports or flying public. His inaction is criminal dereliction of duty — at best, or treason — most likely.

There are lots more, but I get so mad that I can hardly type.

As every patriotic American should hate an enemy of freedom.

The main reason I hate him is for sending Americans off to die in Iraq for no good reason.

...must only be reading what he wants to read. Either that, or we're so sick and tired of enumerating the reasons ONE MORE TIME we tend to skip that part.

hope ya don't mind, but I used ur numbers at hollywoodhalfwits.com. I gave you credit, so please don't get mad. anyways, thanks for da facts.

I'm in a rush..

Accomplishments As President

· In my first three years in office over 3.5 million Americans lost their job.

· Spent the surplus

· Shattered record for biggest annual deficit (400 billion) in history.

· Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

· Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

· Changed EPA rules that will Increase Pollution by 1.6 Million Tons

· Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans

· Tried to Cut hazard pay for troops serving in Iraq

· Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive’.

· Covered up for my rich friends the Saudi’s, for financing two 911 highjackers. 15 out of the 19 highjackers were from Saudi Arabia. (None from Iraq)

· Used forged evidence and lied about “Weapons of mass destruction” to get us into a Quagmire in Iraq. (Then taunted the Guerillas to kill our troops by saying “ Bring them on”)

· Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.

Records and References

· I’m AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.

· Republican Trent Lott “ We can support the troops without supporting the president”

· Republican Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”


Watch these..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/progs/newsnight/attack22.ram
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/bush_family_fortunes.wmv

I have posted this like 5 times and will keep doing it when I find it necessary

I attacked and took over two countries.
I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the US
Treasury.

I shattered the record for the biggest annual
deficit in history (not easy!).
I set an economic record for the most personal
bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

I set all-time record for the biggest drop in the
history of the stock market.

I am the first president in decades to execute a
federal prisoner.

In my first year in office I set the all-time
record for most days on vacation by any president in
US history (tough to beat my dad's record, but I did).

After taking the entire month of August off for
vacation, I presided over the worst security failure
in US history.

I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips
by any president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million
Americans lost their jobs.

I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work
Americans than any other president in US history.

I set the all-time record for most real estate
foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I appointed more convicted criminals to
administration positions than any president in US
history.

I set the record for the fewest press conferences
of any president, since the advent of TV.

I signed more laws and executive orders amending
the Constitution than any other US president in
history.

I presided over the biggest energy crises in US
history and refused to intervene when corruption was
revealed.

I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15
million people), shattering the record for protest
against any person in the history of mankind.

I dissolved more international treaties than any
president in US history.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and
unaccountable of any in US history.

Members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in US history. (The poorest
multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil
tanker named after her.)

I am the first president in US history to have
all 50 states of the Union simultaneously struggle
against bankruptcy.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market
fraud in any market in any country in the history of
the world.

I am the first president in US history to order a
US attack AND military occupation of a sovereign
nation, and I did so against the will of the
United Nations and the vast majority of the
international community.

I have created the largest government department
bureaucracy in the history of the United States,
called the "Bureau of Homeland Security"(only one
letter away from BS).

I set the all-time record for biggest annual
budget spending increases, more than any other
president in US history (Reagan was tough to beat, but
I did it!!).

I am the first president in US history to compel
the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights
Commission.

I am the first president in US history to have
the United Nations remove the US from the Elections
Monitoring Board.

I removed more checks and balances, and have the
least amount of congressional oversight than any
presidential administration in US history.

I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

I withdrew from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners
of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva
Conventions.

I am the first president in US history to refuse
United Nations election inspectors access during the
2002 US elections.

I am the all-time US (and world) record holder
for most corporate campaign donations.
The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign,
who is also one of my best friends, presided over one
of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in
world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron
Corporation).

I spent more money on polls and focus groups than
any president in US history.

I took the world's sympathy for the US after 9/11, and
in less than a year made the US the most resented
country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic
failure in US and world history).

I am the first US president in history to have a
majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my
presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
stability.

I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals
to be awarded government contracts.

I set the all-time record for the number of
administration appointees who violated US law by not
selling their huge investments in corporations bidding
for gov't contracts.

I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties
for Americans than any other president in US history.

I entered office with the strongest economy in US
history and in less than two years turned every single
economic category heading straight down.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES: I have at least one
conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving
record has been erased and is not available).

I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the
military during time of war.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any
questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have
been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in
secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my
insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in
secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All minutes of meetings of any public corporation
for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy
and unavailable for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP)
attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in
secrecy and unavailable for public review.

At the end of 2001, as thousands lay dead and the search for remains was still going on in the rubble of the World Trade Center; as thousands of troops were deployed to Afghanistan for a war which would extend over the years; as thousands of Americans faced a holiday season without a job and with uncertain prospects for the future; as thousands watched their retirement investments depleted, thanks to the corruption of corporations with direct ties to both the Republican Party and the Bush adminstration; after thousands protested the inauguration of George W. Bush and regarded his presidency as illegitimate and contrary to the wishes of the majority of voters; in the backdrop of all that, George W. Bush opined to a reporter, "All in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me."

By the way, I try not to hate him. I just find him selfish, incurious, pathetic and disgusting, among other things.