What has Turkey done recently to become the brunt of terrorist attacks?

Haven't been able to keep up with what the Turkish government has done lately. Anybody know?

they didn't let us fly over their airspace to bomb the muslims
and I think they renigged on their troop offer.

off the top of my head.

and prob. their move into the common market,also they don`t like the elected government

but then backed down about 1 week ago. Also lots of political turmoil, the Kurds are trying to rebel in the South, their political leader is in jail. That's all I know, I guess they're considered collaborators with the enemy.

These insane bombers don't exactly need a reason.

be very particular in their targets if they plan to be effective.

The generals have kept it that way for some time now.

If these bombings are from Al Quaida then wouldn't it be prudent to attack a fragile state where given the right circumstances could give way to riots and unrest against the ruling class?

they aren't at Turkish targets. The last two were at synagogues and the other one was at the British consulate. They are not attack Muslim targets. They are attacking Western and Jewish targets.

"they aren't at Turkish targets. The last two were at synagogues and the other one was at the British consulate. They are not attack Muslim targets. They are attacking Western and Jewish targets. "

I don't really see this as a justification. It was mostly muslims who were killed in these attacks. One would think that these attacks would eventually turn the Muslim world against the terrorists. Its tragic on every level

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allies of the U.S. in the war on terra

That is exactly why there were these bombings, to attack our allies in this immoral war. I guess Georgie's little strategery of attracting all of the terrorists to one spot isn't working. But of course it wouldn't, this is a Bush plan, and they are always a guaranteed failure.

So it looks like the terrorists will start attacking targets outside of Iraq. Smooth move monkey boy. How long before they decide to set their sights on the US? Or is that what you're counting on?

Al-Queda, for one.

The kurdish terrorists were a marxist guerilla group.. nothing the fanatic muslims would ally themselves with

The U.S. and Soviet Union were allies, once upon a time.

Al-Queda and the Kurds now share common enemies.

anybody think about that possibility?

. . . to send a message to the Turks?

I think anything representing the US and the Brits in the Islamic World is now a target.

We decided not to use them because the Kurds hate them so much.

Funny, I thought it was a decision of the Turkish parliament.

right to get mad about it because it was a democratic decision.

Since Ataturk in 1920 or so installed the secular Turkey known today, the rest of the islamic world thinks that Turket turned the back on them by not being fanatics.

And Then Turkey joined NATO and Acnowledged Israel in 1948.


Turkey is a very secular country, by law. And the muslim fanatics just hate that.

over the past three years. Terrorists have become emboldened and more organized than ever, aided in large part by the bushies neo-con recruiting effort in Iraq. Every day of small "victories" in Iraq add to the world's knowledge of how to defeat the US. Nationalism and racism readily come to the front in such an atmosphere, whether in Turkey or the good ol' US of A.

That, and the fact that Turkey looked like they were going to cooperate in bush's war against Islam. It's not a coincidence that these attacks are taking place during bush's UK photo-op.

In effect, the terrorists are taking a page out of the bushies domestic policy playbook, ie: a scorched earth policy fought on multiple fronts. While people are dying tragically, the main goal is to breed chaos and a feeling of defenselessness and helplessness throughout the world. In that, they seem to be succeeding.

Oh, wait, looks like we're back to Jacko on CNN!

I don't think the actual target was the country of Turkey or its government. The British consulate and a London bank in Istanbul were the believed targets, and most likely due to the UK support of the Iraq war.
I think the main goal here is to show (1) terrorism is not confined to nationality, devaluing this "war on terror" and "war on Iraq" and (b) mobilize other nations, such as Turkey and Saudi Arabia, who have not expressly spoken out in favor or against the war in Iraq, to realize that because of their affiliations, they are targets as well.

They are a really modern country, that is secular, and has free elections (up to a point--if a religious party wins, well the military prevents them from taking over). They are not a theocracy or "pure enough".

Believe me -- Al Qaeda would have preferred to pull an operation like this in England, or the US -- but are unable to do so at the present time. They will opt for representations or symbolic targets of Britain and America abroad, which are easier targets.

*IF* Al Qaeda was really behind this. Maybe it's the fact of this is the 40th anniversary of Kennedy's assassination, and the recent solar flares upon my brain, but I cannot help but suspect that this is an operation made to look like Al Qaeda, suspiciously conveniently timed when Bush was in England facing angry crowds, to get the very angry British public behind the Crazy War. Yeah, yeah, *maybe* it's Al Qaeda striking easy targets, or punishing "collaborators" -- but maybe it isn't, but are covert operations to get Arabs on the American/Israeli side by showing that Al Qaeda hates *everybody*. Bush wants the American public to conclude that now Turkey must join in Operation Armageddon in Iraq. I call it "Armageddon" simply because it has gone from taking out a regime, to a supposed crusade against evil itself, which is being acted out in Babylon.

69. HSBC bank wrong target?


German Spiegel online reports that HSCB seems to be a "wrong" target for islamic fundamentalist bombing, since the bank is even promoting banking programs in accordance to islamic shariah.



Gave me an ahhha moment.

There seems to be a lot of resistance to Islamic structuring of banking because it flows around the ideas of debt and interest income. When you consider how wealth seems to be focused on controling resources and structuring cash flow through paperwork, then differences in banking structure are a threat.

I'm no economist but when I first read this I viewed it in light of the BCII investagations reopening in England and wondered if it might tie-in?. I tend to think part of the "culture war" has to do in large part with not so much the oil wealth but the control of that wealth and that is achieved through banking structures, government allocations, treaties, sanctions etc. I guess I see financing as a transformative function (the inverse of Midas) and by manipulating that function you can control the results.

Well, that one post sent me off on another path. My interest is in the underlying dynamics at play so Islamic insurgency doesn't satisfy me as being coherent or simple enough to explain things.

I wish I knew...