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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:42 PM
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Have We Created A Real Al Qaeda? Fulfilled our own prophecy?
I might be wrong, but seems to me Al Qaeda appears to be growing and getting stronger. Don't ask me for a link. It's just a feeling I'm getting.
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dani Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:46 PM
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1. It seems to me their ideology is gaining strength
and spreading. That's something BushCo have failed to to take any sort of action to prevent. What has happened in Iraq so far has only strengthened AQ's goals of creating a widespread polarity, a hatred of the USA amongst Arabs and Muslims.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:47 PM
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2. half right
growing, yes - getting stronger, not sure
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:48 PM
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3. Ummm....yeah!
There was never any "Al Qaeda". Staged events...fear...control...
Dictators usually use this to herd the sheeple. Plain and simple.

Now that we have gone overseas and blown to hell INNOCENT people...
NOW we have "Al Qaeda"...
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:50 PM
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5. That's what I was thinking. That there was an Al Qaeda but not
more dangerous than the occasional attack on a ship here and there. But now it seems as if they have better financing and all. They are definitely getting the weapons they need.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 04:13 AM
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12. There may be
no "Al Quaeda" as such but the threat of international terrorism is no less dangerous.

Therein lies this administration's true evil, by abandoning the real fight, to focus on a war against a nation that posed no imminent threat.

We have already shown our steady lack of resolve in fighting terrorism by coddling terror sponsering states like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.



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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:50 PM
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4. we created them in the first place
then the neocon PR campaign turned them into something far more sinister than they are.

Now we have to fight the Crusades again to preemptively protect ourselves from our own creation.

The neocon Crusade creates conditions that cause the boogeyman to truly turn into the large dangerous enemy that formerly was just a figment of the PR campaign.

Yup. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:52 PM
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6. Not only have we emboldened them
but I wish I could get this radio call I had on Malloy's show with Admiral Eugene Carroll right before his death transcribed..it might even be in Malloy's archives..maybe I'll go look.

Admiral Carroll PREDICTED that we would see terrorism the likes we have never seen. I really think they are doing this there but it's only a matter of time before it happens here again.

Could anyone be so naive as to think it is contained to another continent?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 12:08 AM
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9. from some of the articles
i have just read on bio- terror,bio-defense and the soviet unions bio- warfare research ,it`s fucking scary and very real. no wonder clinton and his crew were worried to death about bin laden. when we get a real president again maybe we can avoid the mass murder.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 04:00 AM
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11. Guess what I found?
3.7 M mp3

I knew I had it somewhere :-)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:54 PM
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7. yes we have
and it`s going to get worse-alot worse. bush has made a decision that may lead to the deaths of tens of thousands in this country. he should have gone after bin and his followers in the afgan-pakistan region. he should have put every resoure to get him ...but he had to fire saddam first. now it may to late. bin and the boys must be working right now on the next terror attack on the usa. maybe the next president will turn his attention to these guys. as clinton told the bush guys- it`s bin boy`s watch them. the rest is history, isn`t it....
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:59 PM
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8. A war is what we wanted... a war is what we'll get...
Afghanistan and Iraq weren't wars. They were slaughters on our part. If we keep attacking them... they will learn to build up thier resistance. Just as in Vietnam.

Self fullfilling prophecy, indeed.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:45 AM
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10. Mutually co-dependent enablers
Where was the Al-Qaeda when we were having our Cold War with the Commies? Funny how they show up after the wall comes down.

Funny too that the leader of Al-Qaeda and the Leader of the US have familial/business relationships that date back to the 70s...coincidence?

Who are the only 2 organizations that are benefiting from the WOT? Why, its the RW Republicans and Al-Qaeda!
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