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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:32 PM
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9/11 Report HIGHLIGHTS - Post 'em if ya got 'em
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 04:24 PM by jackstraw45
Report: http://www.cspan.org/congress/fullreport_errata.pdf

Take a look at page 64:

Discussion:
communications involving < >.
The communications discussed events that were to occur in the near term and appeared to be
related to terrorism. In the first communication, < >
< > asked whether < >. < > responded that < >
< >.

and an unknown person < >, was a
discussion of whether < >.
. NSA did not disseminate reports regarding the communications until
September 12 and 13, 2001].
Two additional communications that indicated imminent terrorist activity.


Would be nice to know the warning they got...




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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:37 PM
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1. Not deleted but another Condi lie
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 03:41 PM by jackstraw45
Page 261:

Central to the September 11 attacks was the terrorists’ use of airplanes as weapons, which National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice addressed in a May 2002 press briefing:

"I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these same people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, taken another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked
airplane as a missile...."

The Joint Inquiry confirmed that, before September 11, the Intelligence Community produced at least twelve reports over a seven-year period suggesting that terrorists might use airplanes as weapons.

Page 264:

In August 2001, the Intelligence Community obtained information about a plot to bomb the U.S. embassy in Nairobi from an airplane or crash the airplane into it. The Intelligence Community learned that two people who were reportedly acting on instructions from Bin Ladin met in October 2000 to discuss this plot.

And from our friend Stephen Hadley (on page 265), who just "found" the memos from the CIA warning of the false Niger info:

"Before September 11, I do not recall receiving any information concerning al-Qa’ida using aircraft as weapons for attacks within the United States."
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:53 PM
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4. And this would be one of the reports...
White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security
http://www.airportnet.org/depts/regulatory/gorecom.htm

Courtesy of Al Gore and others...
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:25 PM
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7. You mean the guy
who invented the internet?

:)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:26 PM
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13. No, we mean the guy (Gore) who never said that, but
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 05:27 PM by SpiralHawk
who did actually spur the development of the internet, and who said that. Get the truth. It hurts, but there's nothing like it.
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:35 PM
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10. Hadley sure has a poor memory for facts
Jeez, what kind of incompetence is this? Organize this guy's desk! Or his brain.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 08:06 AM
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25. He REFUSED to testify
and only submitted written answers.

Makes you wonder what he'd have to say under OATH without a script.

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elfling Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:13 PM
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16. These guys should get out more
So, we're saying that Tom Clancy has better access to strategies terrorists might employ than the National Security Advisor. That's good to know.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:13 PM
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23. Thanks for the laugh, elfling! And welcome to DU!

:hi:
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:50 PM
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2. The Saudis - Redacted!
Page 142:

According to a U. S. Government official, it was clear from about 1996 that the Saudi Government would not cooperate with the United States on matters relating to Usama Bin Ladin. <4 Lines DELETED>, reemphasized the lack of Saudi cooperation and stated that there was little prospect of future cooperation regarding Bin Ladin. told the Joint Inquiry that he believed the U.S. Government’s hope of eventually obtaining Saudi cooperation was unrealistic because Saudi assistance to the U.S. Government on this matter is contrary to Saudi national interests.


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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 03:52 PM
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3. May 2001 Saudi knowledge of attack (DELETED)
Page 144:

In May 2001, the U.S. Government became aware that an individual in Saudi Arabia was in contact with a senior al-Qa’ida operative and was most likely aware of an upcoming al-Qa’ida operation.

<11 LINES OF TEXT DELETED>

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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:00 PM
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5. White House "Cooperation"
Page 305:

the White House refused to allow the Intelligence Community to respond to Joint Inquiry requests for information regarding budgets and budgetary decision making.Many important resource issues revolved around the question of “Who said no?” to requests for additional funds for counterterrorism. However, the White House invoked Executive privilege and refused to permit the Intelligence Community to provide “pre-decisional” data on budget requests that were made by agencies before they were sent to Congress.

Page 341:

The White House refused to allow the Joint Inquiry to
review the relevant documents...
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:16 PM
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6. Saudi support of Hijackers while in US
Starting on Page 447:

Finding: Through its investigation, the Joint Inquiry developed information suggesting specific sources of foreign support for some of the September 11 hijackers while they were in the United States.....

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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:28 PM
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8. Got this from Bob Graham's office a short while ago....
From Bob Graham:

"The 9/11 report has now been released. However, the American people are still not getting the whole story. I believe that there is far too much of this report that has been unnecessarily censored.

I believe that the American people deserve to be told the truth."

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:30 PM
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9. Until the US is willing to deal
with the Saudi problem, we will never win the war on terrorism.

When will America wake up to the fact, that the terrorists don't live in Iraq, they live at 1601 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 04:55 PM
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11. The findings (Part 4) were so heavily redacted
I was reminded of the classic joke about a dirty limerick contest.

(The announcer, when reading it, substitutes "ta-da" for the dirty words:
Ta da da da da da da da,
Ta da da da da da da da.
Ta da da da da
Ta da da da da
Ta da da da da da da fuck)
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:10 PM
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12. Graham in online chat tonite 7/24 about 9/11 report-7 pm EST
The 9/11 report has now been released. However, the American people are still not getting the whole story. I believe that there is far too much of this report that has been unnecessarily censored.

I believe that the American people deserve to be told the truth.

In the spirit of honest and open government I invite you to join me for an online chat about the 9/11 Report that was released today.

What: Online Chat About 9/11 Report
When: Tonight (Thursday, July 24th) at 7:00 p.m. EST
Where: http://grahamchat.whitesandworks.com

You can see the 9/11 report online at:
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/911.html

Thank you,
Bob Graham

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:11 PM
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22. Go NOW - he's answering Qs n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:49 PM
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14. Systemic Findings:
#13--------------------REDACTED


Pages xvii and xviii.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 05:51 PM
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15. Redactions were political...
World citizens deserve all the facts.
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:29 PM
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17. 9/11 widow Mindy Kleinberg deserves answers to her q's
Statement of Mindy Kleinberg to the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
March 31, 2003

The Theory of Luck
With regard to the 9/11 attacks, it has been said that the intelligence agencies have to be right 100% of the time and the terrorists only have to get lucky once. This explanation for the devastating attacks of September 11th, simple on its face, is wrong in its value. Because the 9/11 terrorists were not just lucky once: they were lucky over and over again. Allow me to illustrate.

more...

http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing1/witness_kleinberg.htm
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 06:45 PM
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18. I think critical pieces lie in "another" document, folks
Don't rule out the Regan papers which Time magazine said a year ago were not being released because of "embarrassment" to Papa Bush and thus this administration (fuck them--this country isn't for the protection of their thin skins). Anyway just think about this logically. The Saudi royal family are GREAT pals of Papa who has meddled in the whole area from since he was head of CIA and, of course, in his Iran-Contra scam that he ran out of the WH basement. When the royals came over here for a visit, they spent their "big time" with Papa (just smiled at the idiot). Now, are you telling me that Papa as CIA director, VP and then Pres himself never, never, never had a clue about his buddies?? Of course he did. And the whole thing does raise the old tinfoil hat questions (and those hats are getting less tinfoil every day), of how involved was the slimy old man????---------really...did he cook deals and supply money to them to further the oil barrons lust for oil????? We need the Regan documents; but, unfortunately, they will be scrubbed clean by WH lawyers (and that's just what Time said would happen in their article).
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imhotep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:01 PM
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19. Why won't Bob Graham
release the information?
If he knows the truth then he is just as guilty as Bush.
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GBD4 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:28 PM
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20. Because it is classified!
That would be considered extremely unlawful if the Executive Branch insists releasing classified info is detrimental with regard to the security of this nation! The report is in the hands of the Executive Branch, and they have the sole power in the declassification process. Even Republican Richard Shelby who was Intel Comm Vice Chair, said parts about Saudi involvement should be released. It is not only Graham who knows the info, it is an entire bipartisan group of US Congressmen.
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imhotep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 07:35 PM
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21. so
they are all covering it up then. Daniel Ellsberg released classified material he knew was important to tell the american people. Either Bob Graham is a coward or is playing politics.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-03 08:28 PM
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24. Sen. Graham answered my question:
Edited on Thu Jul-24-03 08:28 PM by Stephanie
Senator Graham, is there any hope that Americans will ever be able to see the FULL 9/11 Report? I live in Manhattan. If there was negligence on the part of this Administration with regard to its policy towards Saudi Arabia, I feel I have a right to know.


I believe that the American people have a right to the truth. I won't risk national security, but I won't withhold information to protect a foreign government or to protetct a US agency from further embarrassment. You have my word.

This should not be a partisan issue. It is an issue of government and its respec for the people of the United States, with the people being denied the opportunity to fully understand what their government did in terms of protecting those who lost their lives on 9/11 and protecting them today.
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