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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:24 PM
Original message
Help Dean Raise Money to Counter GOP Ad!
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 02:34 PM by slinkerwink
Dear Friend,

This weekend, the Republican National Committee is launching its first television ads for George W. Bush. The ads show the fear-mongering that George Bush and Karl Rove are going to use, with their $200 million in special interest money, to try to distort what we are fighting for in this election.

There is only one way to stop them -- and that is by standing up and telling the truth about what this president has done to our country. To do that, we’ve put up the bat on our website. Our goal is to raise $360,000 by Tuesday at midnight -- $5,000 for every hour they are going to lie to the American people with their ad. We need to show that we’re not going to allow the administration to wage an air war on the American people:

http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute

The ad shows George W. Bush giving his last State of the Union address, and then the screen flashes with the words that “some are now attacking the president for attacking the terrorists.”

This is the same State of the Union address in which Bush misled Congress and the American people with the false claim that Iraq had attempted to buy uranium in Africa -- the famous sixteen words that helped drive our country into an unnecessary war. And the war with Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorists who attacked the United States on 9/11. We can’t let them get away with this.

The ad urges viewers to tell Congress “to support the president's policy of pre-emptive self defense." But the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive war is wrong for America. It is costing us in blood and money, and in our nation’s standing around the world.

But the facts have never gotten in the way of the Bush administration’s agenda -- and the facts aren’t going to get in the way of their reelection strategy. This ad is about distorting Howard Dean’s opposition to the war with Iraq. They say that those who opposed the war oppose defending our nation from terrorism. But the war in Iraq had nothing to do with al Qaeda or the war on terrorism. The president’s misleading statements -- and the war they led us into -- are making us less safe.

You have built the only campaign strong enough to take on George Bush and the $200 million he is raising to destroy his Democratic opponent. Help us prepare for battle. Contribute whatever you can afford, and reach out to others and ask them to join us. Our country is at stake:

http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute

Thank you for everything you do.

Joe Trippi
Campaign Manager
Dean for America

Honestly, if Dean is your number two, why not help him out? If you don't want to, that's okay
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:26 PM
Response to Original message
1. OMG - Dean thinks it's about Dean
This ad is about distorting Howard Dean’s opposition to the war with Iraq.

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. well, do you want to counter this GOP ad?
Which also makes Bush look like a leader....
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #4
13. Give to MoveOn
They know who is really being attacked.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. You don't really thing they're too worried about Kucinich
do you?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. ?huh?
So, let me understand. To be "patriotic" one must have supported the invasion and continued occupation of IraqNam? If that is your position, just let the ads run by repukes continue. No need for you to be upset.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Straw man (attack the critic, ignore the issue)
I said nothing about patriotism, the invasion, or the occupation. I quoted Dean's fundraising argument which makes the ridiculous claim that Bush*'s ad is specifically targetted at Dean.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #18
41. you obviously care more about defeating Dean than Bush.
That's really pathetic.


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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #18
45. (Ignore the critic...) my preference...

Ohh that bad bad man Howard Dean...

Watch all the pathetic bashers whine and cry while the bat goes higher and higher...



I love the bat!

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. Darn that Dean! Why does he always have to be the first?
I hate how he's always the first to do something, and then the other candidates have to follow him! I think it's stupid that Dean has raised $84,000 already today, darn that Dean!

When will he realize he's unelectable? Darn that Dean!


;-)
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. Deal with the devil
He is a major force of evil in this country.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. wait---doesn't Dean eat kitten fetuses also?
HE MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS! ;-)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
38. So what if Dean wants to use this Bush ad to motivate his base?
If Dean supporters want to give to Dean, that's our decision, not yours. This stunt is along the same lines as the Cheney Challenge, which was an extermely successfuly fundraiser for Dean.

This letter of Trippi's went out to Dean supporters, and was not published in public newspapers. It was posted here to rally DU Dean supporters. If you are not a DU Dean supporter, then ignore this letter. It wasn't directed at you.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
40. To you, EVERYTHING is about Dean
I suggest you address Silverwink's post instead of snapping to the usual kneejerk Dean hate. Surprise us.


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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
44. Bush is the enemy, not Dean.
If one wants to help a liberal organization attack Shrub, that's cool. If one wants to help Dean destroy the Bush-Cheney cabal, that's cool too.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #1
50. Dean is the only major candidate who was against the war...


Lieberman, CLark, Edwards, Kerry, and Gephardt all supported the war.



And I doubt Bush is runnign the add to take shots at CMB, Kucinich, and sharpton.

But Damn look how fast Dean is raising money...

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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
51. Dean is the only major candidate who was against the war...


Lieberman, CLark, Edwards, Kerry, and Gephardt all supported the war.



And I doubt Bush is runnign the add to take shots at CMB, Kucinich, and sharpton.

But Damn look how fast Dean is raising money...

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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
52. Dean is the only major candidate who was against the war...


Lieberman, CLark, Edwards, Kerry, and Gephardt all supported the war.



And I doubt Bush is runnign the add to take shots at CMB, Kucinich, and sharpton.

But Damn look how fast Dean is raising money...

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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:26 PM
Response to Original message
2. And herein lies the problem....
The GOP is thinking like a political party. We all think like individuals. Sad as that is, it will result in a loss every time for us.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:27 PM
Response to Original message
3. Oh, and if you're from another campaign....
please do help us raise money for this ad. Other campaigns don't have the money now to counter the GOP ad, but Dean does, so go to http://blog.deanforamerica.com, and help donate money. I'd do the same if Clark came out with a fundraiser to counter the GOP ad.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Where does Trippi say...
...the funds will be used to counter the Bush ad? Other than symbolically, that is?

Seems like he's just using the Bush ad to bolster Dean's coffers, not send a message.

My coins are going to the MoveOn ad effort.

Thanks, anyway :hi:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #3
31. Why on Earth
would other candidate supporters donate to Dean? There's nothing in there that actually mentions an ad to be made. I assume the money will just go to Dean's campaign funds. No thanks, I'll donate to MoveOn.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #31
54. Check Dean's O-blog again
under Your Response
http://www.blogforamerica.com/

The ad will be called Misled

and the Deanocrats are critquing the ad and offering their own suggestions, while still donating to this latest battle.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
5. Dean, Schmean. Go to MoveOn.org now to donate for rebuttal ad.
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 02:40 PM by flpoljunkie
Money will be matched by George Soros, i.e., Soros will donate $75 for a $50
donation!
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. That's where my funds are going!
:hi:

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:30 PM
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7. With all due respect ...
what happened to all the money people have been sending him? Why doesn't he use some of that?

What's next? Dean wants the Denny's Meat Lover's Breakfast so he can fight the good fight against Bush. Contribute whatever you can afford, and reach out to others and ask them to join us. Because breakfast is the most important meal of the day and our country is at stake.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #7
19. Really, what a tightwad!
I can't believe this shit, asking us for money when he's already got a boatload.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Really. How dare he ask his supporters
to help counter Bush's lies, when we just chipped in for his birthday?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
25. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. more "attack the critic, ignore the issue"
which is why Hep didn't answer the questions that were asked.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:30 PM
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8. Want to fight it? Give to Move on, not Dean.
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 02:32 PM by Bleachers7
Dean is just looking for personal political gain. Give to Move On. They represent everyone.

Today the GOP crossed the line. In their first ad for the 2004 election, they implicitly accuse Democratic presidential candidates of "attacking the president for attacking terrorists." The ad doesn't question opponents' ideas, it questions their commitment to America. But there is nothing more un-American than attacking an adversary's patriotism for political gain.

We need to fight back.

Let's show the GOP and the Bush campaign that this kind of dirty politics can only backfire against them. We have to ensure that there are consequences for this kind of un-American attack: otherwise the Republicans just won't stop.

Of course, we'll fight back our way, using the power of the facts and the strength of millions of us working together. When Republicans equate the war on Iraq with the war on terrorism, we'll remind the public of the truth. When Republicans raise money from wealthy donors and corporate CEOs to attack the Democrats, we'll raise it with hundreds of thousands of small contributions from people across America. We won't let the Bush campaign get away with these kinds of attacks. And in the end, we'll take our country back.

Today, we can show the GOP what they're up against. They're paying $100,000 to run their ad. Together, we can raise $500,000 today to run ads that get out the truth in key battleground states. Remember, every two dollars you give will be matched by a dollar from George Soros and Peter Lewis.

Help us reach $500,000. Give now by credit card at:


Or by check:

(Check contributions take extra time and money to process, so credit card contributions are preferred if possible.)

The ad isn't just wrong, it's also hypocritical. In May of 2002, Vice President Cheney said, "What I want to say to my Democratic friends in the Congress is they need to be very cautious not to seek political advantage ... Such commentary is thoroughly irresponsible and totally unworthy of national leaders in a time of war." Compare that to this paragraph from today's New York Times: "The Republican Party is responding this week with its first advertisement portraying Mr. Bush as fighting terrorism...By indirectly invoking the Sept. 11 attacks, the commercial plays to what White House officials have long contended is Mr. Bush's biggest political advantage: his initial handling of the aftermath of the attacks." (Many thanks to the Center for American Progress "Progress Report" for unearthing the quotes.)

The GOP ad, which starts running Sunday in Iowa, shows Bush's State of the Union address. Then, clearly referring to the Democratic presidential candidates, it says, "Some are now attacking the president for attacking the terrorists." It asks voters to "support the president's policy of preemptive self-defense." While the ad is run by the Republican Party, the New York Times writes that, "the party has acted as a proxy for Mr. Bush while he tries to maintain the appearance of being above the political fray."

The Democratic candidates are attacking Bush's Iraq policy precisely because it has nothing to do with the war on terror. It's now clear that Iraq posed little threat to the United States, and the situation there today is giving us good reason to question the policy of "pre-emptive self defense." But unless we can answer Bush's ads with ads that get out the truth, these messages may not get across to swing-state voters.

Can you help? With the Soros/Lewis match, a contribution of $50 will actually bring in $75. Multiply that by thousands of us, and we'll easily bring in enough money to take the Republicans on. You can give right now at:


Of course, this news isn't all bad. Parties and campaigns hardly ever run ads this early in the election season. Given President Bush's dropping poll numbers and the clear repudiation of his policy in Iraq, this early ad is a sign that Republicans are getting nervous. They should be: after three years of misleading the country, the truth is coming out. Our work together is paying off. Now let's show the GOP what real patriotism looks like.

Sincerely,
--Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack
The MoveOn.org Team
November 21st, 2003

P.S. For the front-page New York Times story on the ad, check out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/21/politics/campaigns/21REPU.html?hp

P.P.S. We've just received word of a HUGE victory in the Senate this morning -- courageous Senators of both parties have courageously stood up to President Bush and Vice President Cheney, rejecting their terrible energy bill with a resounding filibuster. This filibuster, following successful filibusters on judicial nominations, shows that there are real limits to what Bush & Cheney can get away with. Your gift today to help fund our ads will reinforce this point.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. good idea
.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #8
26. I can and will do both.
n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:37 PM
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12. Ad implies Dems are siding with the terrorists. Turn this around.
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 02:46 PM by oasis
The GOP is doing this particular ad tongue-in-cheek in order to maintain Chimpy's promise to "change the tone in Wahington". They even have a picture of RNC chair, Ed Gillespie at the end of the ad to distance the Chimperor from any involvement in this hatchet job.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:41 PM
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14. It's called leadership.
Some Dems haven't seen it in so long, they've forgotten what it looks like.

He's not asking Exxon or Halliburton for money to run ads to lie to the public.

He's asking for it from Dems who want to counter the WH/Corporatist lies and spin.

If anybody doesn't want to give money, fine. I'm sending a hundred bucks, because I LIKE IT WHEN SHRUB GETS QUESTIONED.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. If you like it when Shrub gets questioned...
...your funds are probably better spent at MoveOn in this case, which will actually produce a counter ad.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
16. I thought Dean had enough money
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:46 PM
Response to Original message
17. did Dean agree to stay within state spending limits?
I thought this was a good idea, I wonder if Dean has signed on yet.

Then we could know that our money wouldn't be going to produce attack ads on other democrats.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:47 PM
Response to Original message
20. is this a separate fund ?
would this go to a separate fund than the one for his campaign ? and would that mean the money donated to this would not count as a campaign contribution to a candidate ?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. No, it goes right into the Dean campaign
and would count as a campaign contribution to a candidate
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #20
36. He is taking on the res...
You have built the only campaign strong enough to take on George Bush and the $200 million he is raising to destroy his Democratic opponent. Help us prepare for battle. Contribute whatever you can afford, and reach out to others and ask them to join us. Our country is at stake:

There should be no confusion.

I heartily support moveon.org and hope they meet their goal. We need moveon.

Dean's campaign will raise another $360,000.00 for the fight.
Everything is right about that too.

It's all good.


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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:49 PM
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21. This letter is a great ad for Clark
Since it remides anyone who thinks for more than three seconds at a time that Clark is immune to these kinds of attacks from the wing nuts and thus takes away chimp's only issue. I'm surprised the Dean people put it out.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Clark's not against the war?
Thanks for letting me know, I thought he was.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. Satire, right?
Please tell me it was satire. It helps to have a 4 Star General and Viet War hero defending the patriotism of anti war protestors opposing the policies of a guy who was A.W.O.L during Viet Nam, that's all.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
30. $25 to MoveOn.org and $25 to Wes Clark
:kick: Thanks for giving me this opportunity to support Wesley Clark and MoveOn.org!
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. Exactly Move-On will return fire for all Democrats.
And give to the candidate of your choice:)
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:02 PM
Response to Original message
32. "Contribute whatever you can afford,
and reach out to others and ask them to join us."

Nothing wrong with that, imo.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
33. Some to MoveOn, some to Dean.
That is my decision. Those who don't like Dean don't need to turn this post into an ugly thing. It was not posted that way.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. thank you for that comment....I've contributed to Clark and to Moveon.org
Since Clark is my number two, why wouldn't I not donate money to him? I've done it before and plan to do so again, and to Moveon.org also. I was just asking people who consider Dean to be their number 2 to help him out.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. Me too. $25 to Move on $25 to Clark.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:11 PM
Response to Original message
35. comment
Interesting suggestion.
Thank You.
I must consider this.

:think:

dbyloi
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:26 PM
Response to Original message
42. The first response to this thread was an attack on Dean.
Analysis? Comments?


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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. I'd rather not try to analyze because some people are just too far out
to think rationally. :shrug:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #42
49. Sorry, analysis implies the ability to think rationally.
Bashers obviously do not have that ability.

Their twisted logic is that their (alleged) donation to Move-On is supposed to somehow offset Dean or something. "So there! Nyah Nyah."

When in reality, it's all good. The more angles that the truth-attack comes at bush*, the better.

So go ahead and donate to Move-on, Clark, or whatever.

But why turn it into some ugly bashing thread?

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #49
53. that's my question---it's a call to beat the GOP ad...
:shrug:
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
55. call wal-mart, I'm sure they'll donate tons of money to the dean campaign
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. huh?
:shrug:
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #56
57.  just another stooge unwilling to stand up to corporate america
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. LOL!
Is that as in Iggy or the three stooges?

Man, how does it feel to be so much smarter than all those morans who support Dean? Must be nice.
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Schmendrick54 Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:07 PM
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59. Hooray. MoveOn has already exceeded the goal of $500,000.
I donated earlier today and went back to check and discovered that the goal was reached. Wouldn't it be wonderful if every time the RNC spent $1 to lie about us we could raise $5 to refute it?

A guy can dream can't he?

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 07:08 PM
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60. that's excellent!!!btw, welcome to DU!
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