New Hampshire Poll: Dean same, Kerry down, Clark up...

Bread and Circus

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Fri Nov-21-03 04:41 PM
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New Hampshire Poll: Dean same, Kerry down, Clark up...

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-21154903.apds.m0779.bc-ct-brf--nov21,0,2792653.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire

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Technically though, Clark's improvement from last post is still
within MOE. I would like to see Clark get 3rd in New Hampshire.

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flpoljunkie

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Fri Nov-21-03 04:48 PM
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1. Twenty-one percent 21% still undecided. Race is not yet over!

Polls are still too early to be definitive. Wait until a week or two before the primary before you crow too much.

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Hep

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Fri Nov-21-03 05:06 PM
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7. Polls are meaningless

but we all quote them like the election is over. Go fig...

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CMT

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Fri Nov-21-03 04:49 PM
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2. third poll in a row

to give Dean a 20+ point lead in NH.

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Vikingking66

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Fri Nov-21-03 04:51 PM
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3. hey good for both of us

Dean's kicking Kerry's ass.
I'm even glad to see Clark doing better.
As annoyed with him as I am about the flag and the deregulation,
a nomination contest between him and Dean would be the most amazing
thing for the party that has happened in a long time. Gephardt, Kerry,
Edwards, and Lieberman are all decent Democrats on policy (with major exceptions), but a Dean/Clark contest would energize those independents who abandoned the Democratic party in the 80's.

If the two were to merge into one ticket, it would display an enormous sense of Democratic solidarity for the general.

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FrenchieCat

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Fri Nov-21-03 04:56 PM
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5. Why are you concerned about the "Flag" thing????

Do you know what Dean's Flag stance is?

Joe Conanson put it this way:
Joe Conason wrote in his journal (Salon.com): http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2003/11/14/friday/index_np.html (free day pass by saying ok to advertisement)Dean's cute flag flap
Several readers distressed by Wesley Clark's remarks supporting the flag desecration amendment wrote in to declare that they had dropped their support of the retired general in favor of Howard Dean. But others pointed out what I didn't know about Dean's own record on this issue. Two years ago, as governor of Vermont, he brokered a legislative resolution that urged Congress to "take whatever legislative action it deems necessary and appropriate to honor and safeguard the United States Flag." While a bit vague, that sounded much like an endorsement of the Constitutional amendment.

Around that time, Dean rather pompously declared that politicians should declare their positions on the flag issue before voters went to the polls in 2002. That requirement didn't apply to Dean himself, as he "coyly" told the Rutland Herald, because he wasn't on the ballot that year. So now that he is running for president, the candidate who prides himself in speaking bluntly should explain the limits of his support for the First Amendment -- in plain English.
<8:22 a.m. PST, Nov. 14, 2003> Article links first night: http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=crowley111303
brokered: http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2002/journal/SJ010116.htm (actual Journal of Vermont Senate spelling out the law adopted with Howard Dean's signature - go down 1/2 way thru minutes)
coyly: http://rutlandherald.com/hdean/38411 Article about the Flag anti consecration law signed into law in Vermont - 2001

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Bread and Circus

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Fri Nov-21-03 11:23 PM
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9. Wow, I like Conason...

He seems fair.

I sent him a message once, thanking him for his book.
He sent a warm reply. Seems like a good guy.

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FrenchieCat

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Fri Nov-21-03 04:53 PM
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4. I think that Clark

going up by 3 pts in 2 weeks is excellent....and all of this was pre media blitz....

Good movement....we are about to hit our stride!

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Renew Deal

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Fri Nov-21-03 05:02 PM
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6. The Clark Shark is circling

And I think it smells blood.

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Zynx

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Fri Nov-21-03 05:13 PM
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8. Whose blood? Kerry's?

Dean continues to be viewed more favorably and has an expanding lead over Kerry.

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