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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:11 PM
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PROTESTORS force resignation of Shevardnadze
Edited on Sun Nov-23-03 12:12 PM by nostamj
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=104

are you feeling jealous?

the world is increasingly unstable.

think this will get more media time than MJ?

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:19 PM
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1. Well if they could do it could we do it here to GWB? kidding n/t
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:25 PM
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5. if we did that here
thousands would be killed and the country could fall apart like a burned-out house
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:27 PM
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6. Do you ever wonder
what the police and/or NG would do when faced with revolution from the American people? Do you think they could really bring themselves to kill their fellow countrymen? A scary thought, that one.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:39 PM
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7. No doubt in my mind
Bush would order law enforcers or the military to open fire on his own people. We would have tanks streaming down main street. There would be chaos and most people would cow tow to him out of fear. IN order to have the type of revolution that we see in Georgia, we need leaders who can persuade a disatisfied population that he can be ousted and forced to resign if the bastille is stormed. Bush is a psychopath and would have no difficulty at all ordering violence upon Americans in order to stay in power. He does not see people as living breathing, feeling human beings with famillies and lives--he sees $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ but not the human being.

No revolution until strong leaders with a strong message, and social conditions that force the people to become enraged.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:42 PM
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8. But,
do you think they could bring themselves to actually follow those orders? If it were me, I couldn't.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:44 PM
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10. Remember Kent State?
I bet you do. Take a read of Milgram's 37 some time while you are at it.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 01:17 PM
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14. Yes
I guess they would.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:43 PM
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9. bush might make the order BUT
would americans fire on americans for him? really?

i don't want to live here anymore if that's true.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:48 PM
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12. You better move, then
There is no doubt in my mind that a significant number (not all, or even a large majority, but enough) of law enforcement personnel and military personnel view "the people" with disdain, have long ago abandoned any notion that they can make their own decisions, and are thereby fascist in the classical sense - they love to be led, literally love it, desire it, desire their own repression - and therefore would enforce any dictum coming from Bush against the "rabble." Not a single doubt about that - and I have close friends and family in the military and law enforcement.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:47 PM
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11. I don't think the military would do anything
I think Republicans would

In the end, though, the military is all about chain-of-command. If they have orders, all they can do is not follow them, which could get them shot.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:20 PM
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2. Big story!
Just how stable is the country of Georgia? Could it turn into another Chechnya? As we are busy trying to defend a mistake in Baghdad, the world is starting to disintegrate around us. From bombings in Saudi Arabia, to Turkey, to the downfall of Shevardnadze, things are deteriorating rather rapidly in the Middle East. And they say the world is a safer place? How so?
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:23 PM
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3. .... its nice to see not EVERYONE gets away with fake elections!
We should use this as a model come Nov 2004!
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 12:23 PM
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4. Wow!
They really did it. I am happy for them. And, yes, jealous too.
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-03 01:11 PM
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13. Why didn't GWB
go in and "liberate" the Georgians?

I guess they could do it themselves.

Just like the Iranians, the Romanians, the POles, the Phillipinos, the Nicaraguans....everyone but the Iraqis, evidently.
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