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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:32 AM
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Could you/do you work for a freeper?
Here's the issue, and I'm gonna try to make it vague. Someone I know works for a pretty nontraditional company -- lax dress code, good corporate culture, positive environmental department, and so on -- and they are on the verge of being bought out by a real weirdo neocon type guy.

This is a guy who somehow, over the past couple of days, has managed to make it known that he is a big fan of Rush, that the Japanese businessmen "have it right" by keeping women out of the decisions, that the founding fathers "had it right" by only letting the white landowners vote, that the "trouble with marriage" is that up until that point, the man is in charge of the relationship, and when you get married the woman wants to start having input.... well, you get the idea.

So my friend is seriously thinking, good grief, how can I go to work and know I'm lining this guy's pockets? This friend is looking elsewhere.

What would you do? Similarly, what do you do, if you're in this kind of situation already?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:34 AM
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1. Leave - and Take as Many Clients as Possible With Me
Edited on Tue Nov-25-03 10:38 AM by Crisco
oh yeah - and write down as many of these comments the new owner makes, verbatim, as possible and get them signed by witnesses. If there are any women in the office who stick around and repeatedly get passed over for promotions and raises, there's your grounds.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:35 AM
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2. start looking for another job
unless your friend can go ahead and quit without financial worries. Life is too short to work at a sucky job.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:36 AM
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3. self employed
master of my own fate (except for rising health care costs with less accessibility).
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:36 AM
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4. I worked for a bank run by members of Reagan's "Kitchen Cabinet"
Gordon Luce, James Schmidt, et al.

Had to keep very quiet about my political views, which have moderated (toward the center) considerably since then. The experience taught me there are some things you simply do not discuss with coworkers.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:38 AM
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5. I'd keep the job, just to annoy this guy
Nothing I like better than needling a neo-con.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:40 AM
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6. Work is work
I work for more or less one reason, to earn money. If they guy pays ok, and doesn't piss me off to much, well, than I'd probably stick around. However, given what you say, it sounds like we'd piss each other off enough that we'd eventually have to part ways.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:45 AM
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7. Stay!
Edited on Tue Nov-25-03 10:46 AM by leftyandproud
Pretend to agree with him...Become good buddies...Get a raise...Use some of his money (your salary) and donate it to the democrats!

;)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:31 AM
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10. Best one so far.
And remember: once you've successfully convinced him you're one of "them", you have the advantage. Imagination is the limit, baby!
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 10:53 AM
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8. I'd start looking for a new job,
although new owner sounds like a lawsuit just waiting to happen.
If the rumors are this strong, the reality is bound to be more than a mortal dem can take. :) Better to leave under your own steam than to be fired by a neocon because you didn't say *ditto* often enough.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:23 AM
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9. briefly worked for a ditto head once
NEVER AGAIN. NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN.
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Zolok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:36 AM
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12. Had to supervise one once...
bitter homophobic, mysogynistic, anti-semitic, anti-everything....lousy social skills (our job needs him)...too self-centered and haughty to train on any serious job...also thought he was "smart" and an iconoclast when in fact he got most of his opinions from talk radio when he wasn't avidly reading the "Spotlight" on-line.
Also incurably lazy.
I actually felt sorry for him he had the personality of a snapping turtle.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:32 AM
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11. A FReeper's money
is as green as anybody else's. I don't discuss politics at work.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:47 AM
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14. Unfortunately, the freepers do discuss politics at work
especially if they're the boss.

I had a freeper boss about 10 years ago before they were even called freepers. He quoted Rush all the time. He put down women constantly and told racist and homophobic jokes. He complained all the time about how women were such a drain on the company because they took maternity leave (it was unpaid, by the way), and bragged about how he paid men more than women.

Every few days he sent around a preachy newsletter from Focus on the Family, while constantly nagging everyone to work 90 hours a week.

The experience made me the liberal I am today.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 09:17 AM
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19. Just because they do
doesn't mean that you have to. Just say you've got work to do, or something. Jeez, this is not a personal comment, by the way, but it is my feeling that all of us can do more to take control of our lives, and our time. We don't always have to go with the flow, and we do not always have to react to provocation. Instead, we should act. Our choices should be ours, realizing, of course, that there may be consequences, depending on what we've done.

But what are the bad consequences of staying out of political discussions at work??
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 11:43 AM
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13. I'd say looking elsewhere is a good idea
That is what happened at the company I worked for until recently.

When I started there it was owned by a group of people who wore Birkenstocks and had long hair. It was bought by a huge company and it was immediately obvious from their style of clothes that it would be a different place.

Envrionmental considerations were trashed, and the whole corporate climate was different. By the time they laid off a huge group of us - I was feeling used and depressed.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:10 PM
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15. I would constantly annoy the guy with my liberal facts and logic
until he either blew an artery or fired me.

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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 12:45 PM
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16. sabotage n/t
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:09 PM
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17. I do not
and could not work for a freeper.

This means I work in places that will never make me rich. :shrug:
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Mentalist Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:27 AM
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27. Thats bull
This means I work in places that will never make me rich.

Thats bull. While you may have choosen a career path that will not make you rich, having a liberal boss or owner will not prevent you from becoming rich.

You are the determiner of your future and your past, present, and future ecnomic situation is controlled by you.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 01:13 PM
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18. 1/3 of your day...five days a week
Life's too short to work for a freeper.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:02 AM
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20. I'm afraid to let bosses know my political views.
I fear that if they're right-wingers, they'll do bad things to me at work. Same with doctors, dentists, and the like.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:09 AM
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21. Luckily...
My direct superior is quite Liberal...I wonder about some of my co-workers though.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:10 AM
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22. NOPE!
I'm happy to report that my boss is a card carrying member of The Stonewall Democrats. She doesn't talk about politics, and rolls her eyes when I go on my bush bashing rants...but she's gold anyhow.
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:16 AM
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23. Start an organizing drive....NOW!
If the neocon hears the word "union" he won't buy the business.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 10:16 AM
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24. I worked with a bunch on wignuts once
They constantly talked about welfare cheats and the evil that is Clinton, and they listened daily to pigboy and laura the unloved. The kicker is that the boss would gather us all in a room and pick on one of us. In fact, he was quite proud of his stupidity. My hair was falling out in clumps. I quit and never looked back. Why didn't I sue?The problem with suing is that you have to prove it, as a lawyer once told me. Companies can fire you for ANY reason, really. It is up to you to prove discrimination and harassment.

Like someone else said, life is too short.
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Throckmorton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:19 AM
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25. Your kidding right, I work in Nuclear Power,
Freepers are mild compared to some of the Doctor Strangelove's I work with everyday.

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Mentalist Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:24 AM
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26. My boss
My boss, who is also the owner of the company is a pretty conservative guy. I work from home so I don't deal with him face to face very often, but he was a co-worker of mine at our previous employer. We are good friends and play golf together. As long as each of us do our job, keep the customers happy, and make the company money all is well.

Politics is rarely if ever discussed or even mentioned outside of legislative or regulatory activity that has a direct impact on the business.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:41 AM
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28. Could I, would I, work for a Freeper?
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 11:42 AM by ieoeja
Could I, would I, work for a Freeper?
Not then, not now, or I'd be a leaper!

I was offered a job, with lots of more money.
If I just cut my hair (he was serious, not funny).

I told him no sir, I can't take your job.
I said, your ideas, sir, make me want to sob.

I know what you're thinking, my priorities are just wack.
But have you considered, that YOURS may just lack?

If it's more important to you that my hair be cut short.
than I do a good job, then the work will go blort.

And I won't blort my work, not for you or your honey.
I'll work for someone with good sense for less money.

I see that you're shocked and you're starting to haggle.
Well you can stick your gazoogle up your frizagle!
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