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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:04 PM
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Gay Marriage" issue: Newsweek has Dean's picture next to the
story entitled " My Mommies Can Marry". Media will saddle him with this and rPIGs will use it from now until the election if he wins the primary. From what I can gather most 'muricans are against it. Yes, I know theres that 40+ % who will vote rPIG, but I'm worried sick about those who can be influenced by this message that Rove will flood the media.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:07 PM
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1. If you're against equal rights
vote republican.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:07 PM
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2. Amen nt
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:08 PM
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3. How about a picture ...
can't find one at the Newsweek site.
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:08 PM
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4. This is the smear...er..I mean..."wedge" issue for this season.
Plenty of gay Republicans. They just have enough money to stay comfortably in the closet.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:10 PM
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6. I hope so.
We're so far on the right side of this issue.
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:20 PM
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11. It's also a lack of imagination on Rove's part.
Non-War's going bad, bogus positive economic figures don't jib with employment figures, none of the Democratic candidates have ever been accused of "sleeping around."
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:30 PM
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13. Yeah, and Dick Cheney's daughter is a Lesbian and lives w/ her partner.
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:38 PM
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14. But of course that's o.k. . Gephardt's daughter on the other hand.
I've like Dean's position on this non-"issue" from the start---it's a state's rights issue, there's no federal law santifying heterosexual marriage, only state laws. Period.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:52 PM
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15. Funny you should mention that.
Does anyone remember in the lone vice presidential debate in 2000 between Cheney and Lieberman, when both men were asked about civil unions and gay marriage. Cheney himself said that he would support some form of civil unions. He was quite reasonable, actually.

Maybe if the gay bashing starts in 2004, the Democrats could air that clip from the debate.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:02 AM
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23. I remember Cheney's comment. We can sure use that sound byte
in in ad.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:09 PM
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5. It's sad we've put 'votes' on human decency.
If Dean wins the nomination and debates Bush, I hope to god he says something like:

"Mr. President, are you telling the American people right now that you're ready to place a vote on human decency? Are you telling the American people right now that you value SOME Americans over another?. If you are, how the hell are you fit to lead this nation?"
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:24 PM
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19. Amen, Brother!
Amen!
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:11 PM
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7. If gay marraige is the defining issue in '04 that defeats Democrats
then we might as well turn out the lights in this country, tear up the bill of rights and constitution and all plug our brains into the big corporate mind port, eat and shit and send our kids to die in wars and watch The Bachelor moronic grins on our faces.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:19 PM
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20. um . . . isn't that precisely what's happening now?
the Patriot Act effectively does away with the Bill of Rights, our collective brain is indeed plugged into the corporate mind port via television and the internet, our kids are dying in wars everyday, and the Bachelor is getting pretty good ratings . . . too late, friend . . .
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:11 PM
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8. Issues don't last that long
I'm kinda glad the saturation is happening now, because I think the ADD media will burn it out by the time the general election starts. Just like the 10 commandments...just like the pledge...late-term abortion, affirmative action, etc etc.

Maybe they'll try to revive & flood us with a buncha wedge issues at once, but that's too much for the media to handle. It's never happened like that before. I think they'll pick a new one and go with it - depending on who the nominee is.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:20 PM
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18. Thanks, I hope you are right.
Maybe I am worried because some of the people I've heard around me (some Democrats, damn it) have said they wouldn't vote for anyone who "supports gay marriage".
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:13 PM
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9. All the candidates say they're for civil unions.
Dean just happens to be the only one who's put his career where his mouth is. The Repukes will use this against whoever runs.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:18 PM
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10. What's the point?
Are you suggesting we shouldn't nominate Dean because of this? Or are you suggesting we dig in our heels and prepare of a hell of a battle?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:17 PM
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17. No, I'm working for Dean. I've contibuted to Dean, I'm staying
with him. I'm saying this damn issue is going make us work doubly hard. Damn media will hammer on this. So far he has handled it well.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 04:29 PM
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12. Most people are not "single-issue" voters, are they?
Edited on Tue Nov-25-03 04:31 PM by caledesi
I am a Dean supporter, and don't particularly like his stance on guns, but I am still voting for him (if he is the nominee).

edit: usual stuff
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 05:11 PM
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16. dean or any dem lose
if they act weak and waffle around on the subject.
they win if they attack the stupidity around the right wingers and then paste them for presenting america with an apartheid approach to living in this country. put the repukes on the ropes, on the defensive -- and watch them twirl in the wind.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 06:21 PM
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21. whoever the candidate is, the Repugs will undoubtedly . . .
hand a "gay marriage" millstone around their neck and accuse them of everything from corrupting our youth to destroying the American family . . . count on it . . .
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-03 09:37 PM
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22. Well so much for "The GOP Wants Dean to Be The Nominee"
They are obviously trying to destroy him already.
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Damodar Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 11:28 AM
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24. Vote "NO!" to amendment banning gay marriage
news poll

www.times-news.com

username: visitor
password: tnweb

There is poll asking if you support a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. Click on "Hell no!" and vote!
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