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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:15 AM
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Bernie Ward talking about Dean now
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dean4america Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:19 AM
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1. commentary???
what is he saying, for those of us on a *(*^&*^* dial-up connection
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:20 AM
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2. He says that he gets Howard Dean.
And all of these roll over Democrats like Kerry and Gephradt can go to hell.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:25 AM
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4. He says
that Dean wants to reregulate the airwaves. And that Dean is the only one of the Dem candidates willing to take that stand. It's made him a more attractive candidate than he was before.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:37 AM
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8. He's wrong. Clark called for the re-institution of the Fairness Doctrine
at least a couple of months ago, but he might have done it before he was even a candidate.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:44 AM
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10. Kucinich has been all over this
stuff forever. I'm really sick of people, now even Bernie Ward FGS, saying Dean is the only this, Dean is the only that -- Kucinich is always 2 yrs. ahead of Dean on every issue of consequence. Hey, I'm glad Dean picks up on it, I think it's great. I like Dean. But Kucinich is the guy who thinks it up, and Dean follows and Dean gets all the credit. For example:

Corporate Media and Media Accountability
Saturday, August 16 2003 06:43 AM PDT

As the next President of the United States, I intend to address this issue directly. First, the Justice Department will engage in an ongoing dialogue with major media over how the public interests can be better served. Second, I will sign an executive order which will require all broadcast licensees to provide free time for all federal candidates. Third, additional funds will be appropriated for the support of public television and public radio. Fourth, community cable systems will receive guidance as to how they may more effectively enlist community participation in the airing of broadcast media programs. Fifth, a White House conference on the protection of the First Amendment and its relationship to media concentration will be formed to enlist the participation of academics, activists, and the industry, in order to facilitate a broader and more effective understanding of the central role which media plays in the life of our nation.
Dennis J. Kucinich
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

http://www.denniskucinich.us/index.php?topic=blog
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 04:00 AM
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14. Pretty soon Dean will have 'invented' the internet
;)
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:24 AM
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3. He is saying that Dean wants to re-regulate,
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 01:28 AM by Liberal_Guerilla
Energy, the media etc.. And Gephardt brought it up today as a negative, and that's why Bernie has become a Deanie.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:27 AM
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5. I didn't catch
that he wants to regulate energy again, too. Thanks!

Bernie is also asking for callers to call in and tell what the Dem Party stands for since so many in Congress caved in to Bush* on so many issues.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:38 AM
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9. This guy is so Ignorant sometimes
Bernie is SO ignorant sometimes. He gripes about the Dems, says Dean is for re-regualation and that Dean was the only Dem against the war. Then, he says "well maybe Kucinich was against it."

He slights Kucinich at every chance, or just ignores him. You have to remember that Kucinich is portayed by the Dems as "too extreme" and "too far to the left." Dean is becoming more mainstream, so it's "okay" for Bernie to start singing for Dean.

Then, after he rips the spineless Dems, he says his producer asked "what about the Greens"? And, Bernie says "I hate the Greens. They have absolutely nothing to offer. They offer nothing to working people, to unions or workers."

What a waste of airtime and a disgrace this guy is. The Greens are not for workers? Has this guy ever read anything about the Greens? It is real apparent that Bernie doesn't have a clue about the Greens, so he either is ignorant or lies to attack them.

Bernie is SF's answer to Chris Matthews.

I've listened to the guy for several years, and the more I listen to him, the more I think he is a hypocrite. He's a smart guy. But, he's ignorant on some issues that he talks about. And, I've always thought that if you have your own radio show, then you owe it to your listeners to be well-informed on the issues that you choose to talk about. Bernie is ignorant on the Greens.

Bernie is exactly what he says he doesn't like = a corporate whore.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:30 AM
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6. Does this medicare issue prove that there is no difference---->
Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 01:32 AM by Liberal_Guerilla
Between dems and Repubs? Does it prove that there are only special interests that run this country and your vote don't mean squat?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 01:35 AM
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7. I've heard some of them say
that they voted for it and then will attempt to fix it. Seems like a Catch-22. Vote against the bill and look like you don't care about seniors, even though the bill is crap. I just can't understand why the hell those few Dems voted for it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 02:14 AM
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11. Probably figured the Dems would lose anyway...
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:21 AM
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12. Neal Bush and Consulting Services and Prostitutes
or is it Neil?

Bernie does come up with some good points every once in a while, even though I still think he's a hypocrite on several issues.

Neil has been named to the boards of companies he knows nothing about the companies but collects thousands.

And, goes to Asia where women "just appear at his door, he opens it, and they come in and have sex with him."

Has there been any stories or discussion on this here at DU? I haven't heard about this, yet? Any articles on it. Bernie was reading quotes of Neil on it.

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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:45 AM
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13. Randi Rhodes was also gushing over Dean today.
A few months ago she was quite dismissive of him. She was talking about him as a great alternative to the beltway insiders that were attacking him harshly at the last debate.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-03 03:17 PM
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15. They were attacking Dean's disingenuous use of IWR to attack them
all these months when his original position wasn't that far off theirs.

Since few in the press did their job and never actually studied Dean's positions or even noticed, Kerry and Gephardt were left to hold that mirror up to Dean when he attacked them.

It's plain dumb of Randi not to see that it was the press' fault for selling Dean as the antiwar candidate.
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