Joe's Voting records and rhetoric are 2 different things.

I'm posting this because I don't want it lost in that "Liberman goes to GOPYland" thread.

There are those who think that some of us are ignorant fools for comparing Holy Joe to Zell Miller, because of the differences of their voting records. True, Lieberman's record is quite in line with Democratic principles, but that's not what today's criticism is about.

Most people don't know about voting records, but they can see and hear a person's disposition, attitudes, and demeanor on TV, which is where Joe Lieberman was, when he decided to bash his fellow Democrats on Faux's Hannity and Colmes.

Let me make this perfectly clear for anyone who would call me ignorant...The reason I don't like Joe Lieberman is his mouth. I don't like his sanctimonious attitude, I don't like his dire predictions that if he's not nominated then the Dem Party is dead, I don't like his belief that he should be annointed the standard bearer for the Dems and thus coronated Presidential nominee without a challenge just because he thinks he played a hand in Gore winning last time, I don't like his whininess, I don't like the fact that even I see that "Sore Loserman" sign in my head everytime I see his garden gnome looking face.

I have no problem with his voting record, and I'm sure few here actually do. I just don't want him sabotaging the Democratic selection process because the primary isn't going his way. This is exactly what he was doing. I resent being called an ignorant fool for that.

Edited : for typos and clarity.

Lieberman can conveniently sit on his voting record of the past while his present betrays that past. True, he still often votes on the correct side of issues but he sits on a voting record extolling civil rights while his votes on PSLRA actually betrayed those rights by allowing the graft and corruption that is now undermining the middle class.

He cites Florida when it is convenient to portray himself as being wronged but where was he when the black votes were disenfranchised. He may have fought in the past to win those rights, but did he protect them when they were interfered with? NO.

His voting record on Patriot, IWR etc. I can no more single him out than I can for the many other Dems out there who voted the same way. His warmongering lately though, especially in light of all the B* lies, is corrosive though. at least Kerry stands up and says we were lied to.

Also on Florida, only the Congressional Black Caucus stood up for those disinfranchized voters. None of the other Dems stood up to be counted either. They laid down for Bushco, annd only now are some of them getting their spines back.

I CAN blame Lieberman foor his waffling on the overseas ballots. An illegal ballot is an illegal ballot. Who is he to challenge Florida law? What, did he thing they would pick up some more sympathy votes with that stunt? Hello! The election was already over!

He's just acting like a crybaby now.

to be significantly different even from their own voting records.

VERMONT POSTCARD
THE LIGHT OF SUNDAY
Issue of 2003-12-01
Posted 2003-11-24
The Reverend William Sloane Coffin, now seventy-nine and suffering from terminal heart disease, no longer preaches on Sundays, but he can’t stifle the urge to prepare new material for what might as well be called impromptu sermons
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Politics and religion have never been far apart in the preachings and doings of Bill Coffin. As the chaplain at Yale, in the sixties, he was jailed for his activities as a Freedom Rider
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“Joe Lieberman heard that I’m not supposed to last very long, so he called me. In his pious tone, Joe started to say how much I had meant to him. I cut him off. ‘Joe, I would give my right arm to have the influence on you now that I had then. You’re an orthodox Jew and a conservative Democrat. It’d be better if you were the other way around—a conservative Jew and an orthodox Democrat!” Coffin is a Howard Dean man.

http://newyorker.com/talk/content/?031201ta_talk_mcgrath

I've been trying to figure out who he reminds me of. Maybe that's it.