If Dean is nominated, will you give him $100?

I'm a Kucinich man, but I'm a realist, too, and anything not named Lieberman is better than Bush. Howard Dean has opted out of the spending limitations, and is counting on 2 million people giving him 100 dollars, helping him to compete with Bush. He'll of course take the money over the internet.

I don't like Howard Dean, personally, but I think if he gets the nomination, I would have to scrape up a hundred bucks (it wouldn't be easy, either) or split 50-50 with a 'donation partner' to help take George W. Tiberius out of there. I would do the same for Kerry, Gephardt or (most grudgingly) Clark.

What about you? Are you that committed?

I am giving money to Clark now. I will give money to Dean if he wins the nomination.

Poor as I am and not yet committed to anyone but Dennis, if Dean gets it, I will go the 100 bucks and put my money where my complaining mouth has been for years. I could not pass up the opportunity to buy myself a politician.

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for the house of blues fundraiser...

if it runs against that thieving, fascist SOB.

I'll give him $150. :)

Clark is definitely to the left of Kerry and Gephardt.

Maybe you can't afford it? That is understandable in this economy but I am sure you can rally friends and family for a lone. Whatever the deal is $100 is a very small price to pay for seeing Bush out of the Whitehouse.

and if Dean doesn't get the nomination, the remainder will go to whoever does get it. Main Objective: Regime Change

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I'm sure it's already been said, but welcome to DU!:hi:

Might have to pawn the VW hippie bus but I think it's worth it :)


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That's cool it will be worth it.

I expect to support the nominee to the limit.

I'll give the max.

"A hundred for Howard."
or
"A c-note for Clark"
or
"Ben Franklin for Kerry"

....drastically.

... now, and later. If I max out, I'll give to my local party, my state party and the DNC--- anyone--- who will take aim at the Emperor of Crawford, and not shoot at our nominee with money I donated!

Yes

Same goes for any other candidate who becomes the nominee. Even Mr. Bush Lite himself, the Ferengi who came to Earth, Joe Lieberman.

And, remember, the Borg, the Cardassians, AND the Dominion, too, certainly seemed invincible...

Just to convince the swing voters that he's not a dangerous egomaniac demagogue and to convince the retirees that he won't gut their entitlements.

... about the retirees, though you could have thrown in "balancing the budget on the backs of the poor like he did in Vermont" if you were going to max the vitriol.

It will take some serious duckets to drowned out such moronic vomit.

I don't know if I'll have that kind of money to put behind any candidate. We're barely scraping by as it is, but I'd volunteer for him or any other Dem in the race except Lieberman once we get to the GE.

... I'm from Columbia, my mom was from Sparkle City - is the economy that bad up there? I hear that Roger Milliken is really pissed at Bush for not dealing firmly with the Chinese.

it's been pretty bad. Anyone who has any ties to the textile industry around here is hurting pretty badly. I guess the real bright spot is the BMW factory. Other than that place, most of the area is having a pretty rough time right now.

Milliken has been really taking it to Bush in the local paper here lately on trade issues. He's no Dem, and he could care less about the average worker, but in this one instance he and the working people up here have a common interest.

It's hurting his bottom line, and it's causing everyone else to lose their jobs. Our unemployment rate is pretty high right now, last figures I saw it was about 4% higher than the national average.

Thanks for checking out the blog. :)

... a million and a half dollars in 2 fuc*ing hours. Then Milliken came out and said he might not win in SC - which is bull***t. The problem with South Carolina is Greenville and Lexington - I call it the axis of evil - those two counties are so overwhelmingly Republican you would have to win everywhere else in the state to win an election.

Greenville and Lexington are the most Republican parts of the state, and I'd bet they rank as two of the most conservative parts of the country. Spartanburg is not too far behind, but those two counties vote so heavily Republican that you'd have a hell of a time winning as a Dem here in a statewide election unless of course you're name happens to be Hollings. I hate his positions on net privacy, but he's better than the Repuke that's sure to replace him.

The only chance we'd really have down here is if we could get more of the African American vote out. There are about 200,000 of them that are eligible but not registered to vote. I believe they are our greatest untapped political resource in SC.

... but I've got a bad feeling we're going to lose that seat. Yeah, we have to get the African-American turnout up, but it's going to be hard. The party is just about out of money, here - did you read that they're having trouble raising the $500,000 just to hold the presidential primary?

BTW, if you google on South Carolina Election Commission, the first link up is the site - they've got a bunch of statistics on voter registration and tallies from elections back to '96. Our electorate is about 26% black, but I think the state is over 30% black. In 2000, Bush won Greenville 92-43 thousand - over 2 to 1 over Gore. Lexington was 58-22 thousand. By contrast, Gore won Richland, where I live, but only by 13 thousand votes.
But this is even worse - Greenville and Lexington make up about 16% of the state's registered voters. Lindsay Graham beat Alex Sanders for Senate by 113,000 votes. He won Greenville by 70-38 thousand, and Lexington by 45-22, so he picked up a net gain of 55 thousand in just those two counties, which is almost half the total victory margin, from 1/6 of the electorate. We've got to talk them into butterfly ballots.

Sorry about the detail, but I'm a math teacher.

I am doing what I can to fight the BFEE and feel that donating to Dems is only a very small part of my efforts. I kinda feel that just donating is a cop out. Do what you can it will take all of us pulling together.

If you can help get the BFEE out of office your odds of finding a job will probably increase enormously but if you are counting on any pol to hand you a job you probably have a shallow understanding of society in general. Maybe that is why you can't find a job?

Cher

I don't have much money, but I'm going to give the two-thousand dollar maximum to whichever Democrat is leading after the March 2, 2004 Super Tuesday primaries.

Whether it's Lieberman, Kucinich, Clark, Dean, Edwards, etc., I'll give the two-thousand.

If Bush gets to appoint a Supreme Court Justice, the nightmare could last 35 years.

but will give time, money, sweat, to ABB

Not a penny. I try to avoid losing investments.

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I feel that giving Dean the nomination will be the wrong move, but should he get the nod, I will give him my time and money to make sure he can beat Bush.

I have already given a lot more that $100. Not quite sure how much. Every time some talking head or a major Repub talks bad about him I go to his site and donate more. So, the answer is YES I will donate more WHEN he gets the nomination.

After the convention, whoever gets the nomination will receive public financing (including Dean and Kerry who have opted out of Primaries public financing), and you generally can't give to the campaign then.


A good time to give is after the March 2, 2004 Super Tuesday primaries.

and other organizations like that. any time. with something like a 26,000 per person limit.

I'm donating as much as I can to whomever is the Dem nominee -- even Lieberman. If Bush destroys our country and the world, I at least want to die knowing I did everything I could to prevent it.

his campaign $500 and I have such a bad taste in my mouth from his supporters, I will have to think long and hard on whether he will get any more of my money. He will get my vote, that's a given.

Will be giving him another $100 prior to the Iowa Caucus, and will do what I can, with my quite limited means, to max out prior to the Convention.

After the convention, I'll also be giving him as much as I can pull together, in small amounts as I can pull it together.

I think buying myself a President -- along with thousands of others (and hopefully millions of others by then) -- is damn near the most exciting thing I've ever done politically.

Eloriel

Right now, I'm a Dean supporter, but will switch over to whomever is the nominee. Why did you say (most grudgingly) Clark? Just asking! :eyes: :shrug:

Im having trouble financially right now but Ill send what I can,

I'll donate at least $500 and march from door to door for any Dem nominee. Thanks for the tip about giving to campaigns before the convention. I wasn't aware of that rule.

I never donated money to a campaign before. But I like Dean a lot.

When Dean wins, I'm going to want a picture of the man to frame in my house the way my parents did with Kennedy. I've never wanted to do that with any other canidates picture.

As long as its not Lieberman. I have been going back and forth lately on who to vote for in the Arizona primary....Clark or Dean. As long as one of those two men are running (hopefully they'll run on the same ticket), I'll be happy and giving every dollar I can to them.

Its time for us to put our money where our mouths are.

And more if I have it.

You'd be amazed at some campaign finance reports. Three and four names at the same address is a common occurance.

why not 10 million giving $25 ? more realistic and it would be a surer sign that he was connecting to the voter base. 2 million votes won't win anything.

Or a million giving 100 and a million giving 10, etc. Everytime I've heard Dean talk about it, he qualifies it as to ability.

2 million voters won't win the election but $200 million buys the exposure to other voters that the message hasn't reached.

A few times. Will abaolutly give another 100.00 or few. Go Dean!!!!

he can get all the money he needs and more from the pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian scaly peckers he is already sucking upon, and I'll not throw in my lot with them. Those Benjamins would be better spent in your own neighborhoods upon the poor and homeless, and those who would do right by them. Think about it. Even circulated among the small businesses and better run employers would do more good than being bilked by corporatists. They are scamming their supporters and breaking promises they had barely made. Are there no scruples left anywhere?

... but supposting we had a candidate who would bring us National Health Insurance, wouldn't that be worth $100?

So send Dennis Kucinich a hundred dollars. And vote for him.

I have no faith in familiar promises. And, I already have.
Great idea though!

... Ralph Nader got only 2.5 percent of the vote, and Dennis is only pulling 3 percent of the Democrats - the nation has given up on the idea that great things are possible.

does X = X?
does that even qualify as 2 dimensional reasoning?

next question...

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Or better. Any Democratic nominee deserves our best.

But I'll give another $100 or so to whoever is nominated.

Absolutely. We have to keep our eye on the ball, and the ball in this instance is kicking shrub out. Whoever gets the nomination gets my full support.

nt

The maximum you can give directly to campaign is $2000.

You can wait until after the March 2, 2004 Super Tuesday primaries.

But after the convention, they won't generally accept donations because of the public financing system. This even applies to Dean and Kerry, who aren't using public financing for the primaries.

nt

He's worth millions. Let him pay for it himself.

That is a bit much to ask the candidate to spend from his personal funds.

election. It will be a sacrifice for us so that's why we can only make this one time donation and it will have to be to the winner of the primaries. We wish we could give $100 now and another $100 then, but it's not possible so we have to put our money were it will count the most.

and I'll even add a buck or two for each Dean Basher who says they won't! :)

I'll give to others as well, if they convince me they are worth it.

and have been paying it off in $10, $20 here and there. I'll give more if I can, but I pledged a minimum of $100. It's money well spent, he's going to win!

I DO need to be sure he's the nominee before I send more though.

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All the Doctor had to do was ask.

I'll happily donate more that $100 to the Democratic nominee! If it's Dean, all the easier to part with my money!

And I'll do it for the Dem nominee, period.

Let's see...I fight the NRA but then give money to Dean...what does that make me? Didn't do our homework or know about NRA endorsements when we stupidly donated. Never ever again.

I think you have some more homework to do. Dean has not been endorsed by the NRA.

Money is not going to beat Bush. He will outspend and outmedia any Dem.
Issues and inspiration is what we need.


TWL

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Not Clark or Kerrey.

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that much. Don't know how long that'll take, but I'm putting what little money I have - where my mouth is.

Yes, John, I, too, would try to do as much for another Dem like Clark or even Kerry or Gephardt if they got the nomination instead of Dean. REMEMBER: The objective is NOT to quibble over the details. That's where the devil is! We all share the same Priority One - kicking the bushies OUT OF POWER!!!

And, hopefully, KEEPING them out!!!!

'nuff said.

If the Supreme Court overturns that, then I would.

I'm confused by your reply.

of DU Dean supporters here I have come to learn Dean is awash
in money and doesn't need mine.

I'm not giving Dean jack shit anymore.

I'm all about ABB, but it's getting tougher to say I'll do any more than vote. And sometimes I get the feeling some of the supporters here don't even care if I do that much. Maybe I'm just having a bad day. :(

I think there are far more of us on BOTH the Clark side and the Dean side who get lumped and dumped in these "Your Guy is A Gingrich-Lover" "Your Guy Killed Koresh and Is A Republican" exchanges.

The vast majority of Dean supporters I follow here don't crap on Wes Clark just like the vast majority of Clark supporters don't crap on Howard Dean, but we collectively feel the sting when we're lumped together and dumped on by the opposition.

The discourse here certainly has turned me off to doing anything to assist the Dean campaign if Dean wins the nomination. It's not only that, but dealing with the local Dean for America people has been a real nightmare, too. There are times when I think that there is a trickle-down of obnoxious arrogance from the very top to the grassroots of the Dean campaign.

But deep down I know that's not the case here on DU, nationally, or locally. But it sure is hard to warm up to people and a campaign who both so frequently behave as if Christ has spoken and He has said "You are either with us or with the Republicans."

Everybody's vote counts, and everything that anybody can do beyond that. People get shrill because all of us, no matter which candidate we like best, are so nervous about defeating G.W. Bush. That shrillness can be depressing sometimes, but I think almost all of us will get together in the end because it's so critical that we do.

... I scraped up $50 for Dean and sent it.

I'll scrape up some more if he's nominated.

I'll vote for him, but that's about it

That's my pledge, and I'm sticking to it.

I've been giving $100/month to Clark's campaign and look forward to continuing this through next November.

Should that not transpire, I'll give $50/month to whomever else may win and give $100 to each of the Democratic Senate campaigns running in the 4 vacated/opened seats.

I may find a "critical" race to donate to instead of whomever is running for Miller's seat in Georgia; after the damage that man has done to the party, I can't imagine any Democrat being able to run and win for that seat.

I've been saving and have plenty of room on a credit card. Whoever it is gets my $2,000 right after the convention.

I will also continue to donate to MoveOn, especially with Soros's matching contribution offer.

His corporate buddies can pick up the slack-- especially now that he's chosen to forego federal matching funds.

If indeed Dean is the nominee (which is still unlikely IMHO), my $$ will go to a number of local races where it will make much more difference.

'nuff said.

I'll give them my time.

Except for Lieberman, but there is no way that sniveling weasel will ever get the democratic nomination anyway.

ABB - Anybody But Bu$h

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who ever is the nominee (even Lieberman) will get my support

The Dem nominee will get some cash from big daddy Redleg since I am just rolling in it, especially since the big Bush tax cut targeted at me and my wealthy friends.

I am just kidding about my wealth but serious about making a reasonable donation.

If he gets the nomination (which is still way FAR off and not a sure thing)I will give my time to getting him elected but I can't afford to give money. I will keep that for local candidates and the money I've already given to John Kerry.

Once the nominee is chosen he (or she) will have access to a good deal of funding. My small monetary contribution won't make a bit of difference. My working for the candidate should have more value.

to a campaign before, but I've already pledged to donate my $100 to Dean after the holidays. I've also informed family that for my birthday in April I want them to donate to the campaign as well (although since they are all hard-core repukes, I've told them just to give me the cash they were going to spend on me and I will donate it myself!)

a pretty penny on Wall St today, and I cannot choose between the two as of now, I just wrote out checks for $2000 to each of them. I hope Im not breaking any campaign finance laws by giving the maximum to more than 1 candidate....and if I am...oh well.

I will give to who ever tha candidate is. I never gave to any campaign before,I've given to Clark already this year, probably will again, have given to MoveOn.
I live in Maryland usually very safe a Democratic State, I want to find out what I can do on the ground in Pennsylvania, the nearest swing state to me.

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A great post and (generally) a great thread. What I like most about it is the ABB willingness to make the same contribution to whoever the nominee turns out to be. And I suspect it'll be pretty clear long before the public funding deadline.

For that event

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I'd even give to Lieberman. I was for Dean before Clark threw his hat in.

Unless it's Lieberman.

if they are nominated.

I already pledged another $100 at the funding vote. Kucinich is my second choice based mostly on electability, not issues. I can't quite force myself to think of voting for the others, if that was the only choice. I'll cross that bridge or not, when I come to it. It just may be better to let Bush have it then let Bush lite or PNAC lite have it. Sour grapes? Maybe, but, at least when the sh*t really hits the fan, Bush will be in it, not long gone.

I donate a quarter of my monthly pension check to winning Wesley Clark the nomination. Should he, God forbid, not get the nomination, I will donate the same to the winner of the nomination.

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At that point, I won't care who it is, but I will do it to get those miserable excuses for humanity out of power. That's my commitment.

There's my gold star. B-)

It is a good one, and most Democrats support it.

Maybe more if I can. Hell I may not wait til then.

Anybody But Bush Associciation. Yep that's me I'll give as much as I can. I would take out a loan if I had to, I would beg borrow and..... well, beg some more if I had to ... yes.... Yes.... YES !!!!

Got that ?