let's assume that Dean is unelectable

would you still vote for him in the primaries just because you like him? Personally I wouldn't but I would like to see how far are we willing to go "on principle".

No need to say he's electable and it's all right wing propaganda.... we're all going to assume that he's not for the sake of this argument.

...I wouldn't have volunteered for his campaign.

If you like Dean's positions and the things he would do to repair the damage Bush* has committed, why wouldn't you help get his message out? Even if he loses, you'd be helping to spread some good ideas around.

That's a fact.

Hell, I'm even closer to Clark on most issues than to Dean. There are very few of the Democratic candidates whom I am not closer to than Dean.

My vote in the primary will probably go to the candidate I consider most likely to defeat Bush.

and the person I think has the best shot at achieving that will get my vote, help and maybe some cash.

I would not vote for him not because he doesn't have a compelling message but because it is vital that we defeat Bush. But having said that I honestly think that along with a compelling message and the best run campaign i've ever seen that Dean is also the most electable candidate we have running in 2004.

I didn't buy Rove's OBL = Saddam or "everything's changed" after 9/11, and I'm sure as hell not buying Lehane's crap about Dean being unelectable or FP deficient.

But hey, that's just me...

and stop bashing the front runner for the Democratic Party.

But then, of course that would depend upon your agenda, wouldn't it?

:eyes:

that any one of our candidates is unelectable and I will work my butt off for the one that is the nominee

we're all adults and he either is electable or isn't.

Dean's chances at beating Smirk by repeating Rove's meme that he is "unelectable". Repetition is an effective way to spread ideas that aren't grounded in fact.



If we can "assume anything we want" that would be my assumption about your post.

or maybe I'm just trying to see where do people stand. You can assume whatever you want though, no hard feelings.

Why not promote whoever your choice is instead of making derogatory remarks about Dean? If there is not enough good to say about your choice for the nomination and you need to resort to damaging another candidate's chances, maybe you could re-think your choice.

Just a thought.

Slander on.

I'm not about to assume anything - please note I said "I" will not assume - I don't care if you do.

If I thought Clark was not electable I'd feel bad about it but I'd vote for whoever I thought had the best shot at beating Bush.

It is a hard thing to face when you've put a lot of time and effort into backing your guy (or woman) but you wouldn't want YOUR vote to help put forth a candidate who was destined to go down in flames.

So if I thought Dean more electable than Clark I'd choke back my tears and pull down the Doc's lever. And I'd work to get him into office as well.

ABBA!

It's about voting your heart and your beliefs. If you listen to the media, Lieberman is more electable than Dean. BUT I don't share the same values and beliefs as Lieberman; why would I vote for that?

:kick:

I might in other circumstances, but * is too much of a catastrophe for this country. I'm leaning towards the "Dean isn't electable" side, although I've given him money. But I'm now in Clark's camp. Either way, I'll obviously vote for the Dem and will not concede defeat. No matter how much the chimp cheats, there is still almost 1 year for things to happen. (Hopefully in our favor). So, while I don't feel confident today, I do believe it's possible that Dean can and will beat that piece of human excrement sitting in the White House. (ok, just a little testy about the possibility of 4 more years of that asshole.)

If you couldn't see the uglieness it would incite a hundred miles away take off the blind fold. If you really want to engage in this type of speculation, don't feed into flame bait. Try: who is your candidate, and would you still vote for him or her in the Primaries if you believed he or she was unelectable?

it would be worse because people would know that I was talking about Dean since he's got that label and he is leading. I decided to be upfront.

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