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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:00 PM
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You have got to read this - Repub e-mail
Make me gag, just received this from an repub.

Subj: An Interesting Record
Date: 11/18/03 8:25:47 PM Eastern Standard Time


Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1...

... the first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.

... over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.

... nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.

... the Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.

... on Monday, October 6 power generation hit 4,518 megawatts-exceeding the prewar average.

... all 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.

... by October 1, Coalition forces had rehab-ed over 1,500 schools - 500 more than scheduled.

... teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.

... all 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.

... doctors salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.

... pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.

... the Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq's children.

... a Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.

... we have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.

... there are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect 50,000 by year-end.

... the wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.

... 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.

... Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.

... the central bank is fully independent.

... Iraq has one of the worlds most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.

... Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.

... satellite TV dishes are legal.

... foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for minders and other government spies.

... there is no Ministry of Information.

... there are more than 170 newspapers.

... you can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.

... foreign journalists (and everyone else) are free to come and go.

... a nation that had not one single element - legislative, judicial or executive - of a representative government, now does.

... in Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad's first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.

... today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.

... 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq's history, run the day-to-day business of government.

... the Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.

... Shia religious festivals that were all but banned, aren't.

... for the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.

... the Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.

... Uday and Queasy are dead - and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to the zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq's soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.

... children aren't imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.

... political opponents aren't imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or are forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.

... millions of longsuffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.

... Saudis will hold municipal elections.

... Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.

... Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.

... the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian -- a Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.

... Saddam is gone.

... Iraq is free.

... President Bush has not faltered or failed.

... Yet, little or none of this information has been published by the Press corps that prides itself on bring you all the news that's important.

Iraq under US lead control has come further in six months than Germany did in seven years or Japan did in nine years following WWII. Military deaths from fanatic Nazi's, and Japanese numbered in the thousands and continued for over three years after WWII victory was declared.

It took the US over four months to clear away the twin tower debris, let alone attempt to build something else in its place.

Now, take into account that almost every Democrat leader in the House and Senate has fought President Bush on every aspect of his handling of this country's war and the post-war reconstruction; and that they continue to claim on a daily basis on national TV that this conflict has been a failure.

Taking everything into consideration, even the unfortunate loss of our sons and daughters in this conflict, do you think anyone else in the world could have accomplished as much as the United States and the Bush administration in so short a period of time?




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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:04 PM
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1. Rose Colored Fools
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:05 PM
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2. Well, I just caught one of the lies: journalists are free to come and go.
And I think there is another one: there is no ministry of information... Not by that name anyway, but that it exists it exists! just in English now.
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omshanti Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:06 PM
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3. Saddam is NOT gone, Iraq is NOT "Free"
Saddam still lurks in Iraq somewhere, and the Iraqis are now under occupation.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:06 PM
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4. Then why aren't the Iraqis throwing rose petals
towards the troops?

-Where is Saddam? (the Waldo for the new century)
-Where are the WMD's?
-What happened to the 3 trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon?
-Why are there 140 attacks on the US troops daily?
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:08 PM
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5. Mean while the infrastructure and lifestyles of Americans deteriorates.
If the Democrats did for America what Repubs claim they have done for Iraq they'd be called tax and spend Democrats.

Why don't the Repubs want to spend money on Americans like they want to do on Iraqis?

Why all the comparison to WWII?

These are the talking points we need to reply to.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:08 PM
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6. and how did the Invasion of Iraq
lead to a Iranian Nobel prize winner? Aw, to freepers, all those A-rab's are the same anyway.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:08 PM
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7. I think someone should tell the Iraqis about this.....
they probably have no idea how nice things are for them now.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:09 PM
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8. If any of that crap was even remotely true, the puppet mainstream...
...press would have been all over it.

More propagandafrom the right, and bad propaganda at that.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:10 PM
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9. So the Bush Regime now has control over
who is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?

"... the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian -- a Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace. "

If Shrub is so wonderful, why wasn't he awarded it?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:14 PM
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10. Who'd a thunk it?
Give credit where credit is due....

The American soldiers who died or were maimed in the war.
The American taxpayers who are sacrificing to fund reconstruction.The American workers who make the American dream come true.

Anyway, if it weren't for throwing (so far) $160 billion dollars into Iraq, none of this would have happened, if indeed, all of it has. I'd like to see the proof.

Nope, if there is any credit to be given for success in Iraq, it goes to the common man, not the elite cowboys.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:16 PM
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11. On first glance, about 50% of that email is factually incorrect. n/t
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:18 PM
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12. Amazing
what $250 billion will buy. I wonder how many schools, nurse's salaries, teachers' salaries and hospitals in America would have been improved with $250 billion we didn't have to begin with?

What does an Iranian woman receiving the Nobel Prize have to do with George Bush? Amazing what he'll take credit for.

Had the question been, "give me $250 billion to invade, destroy and then re-design a country", I wonder who would have supported that?

The question, originally, was "help us disarm a grave threat to world peace."



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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:22 PM
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13. I think the NYT had a report about a firehouse in Mosul making
25 times their former salaries; with new equipment and uniforms. On the day that two Americans were shot, taken from their vehicle, and pummeled with concrete, the members of the firehouse went and cheered the attack.

If the right-wingers want to call that an accomplishment, I'd hate to see a failure.
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BigBigBigBear Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:58 PM
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19. Link
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 11:31 PM
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27. Thanks
I haven't registered with the NYT.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:23 PM
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14. Damn you Saddam for controlling the Nobel Peace prize!
It's a good thing we started an unprovoked war because now that Saddam is no longer in power: "the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian -- a Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace."

:eyes:

Who knew the Nobel Peace Prize committee was in the pocket of that evil doer?? I feel safer, don't you?

Hmmm...makes me wonder what the winner of the f*cking Nobel PEACE prize has to say about our actions in Iraq!!! Or better yet, I wonder what SHE has to say about the fact that Iraqi women run the risk of being kidnapped and raped if they leave the house without an escort.

How insulting and/or ignorant does a person have to be to believe this crap??? Nevermind. Don't answer that.

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:28 PM
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15. and of course, it's legal to be Wahabbi now in Iraq
mustn't forget that...
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:30 PM
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16. Here's a nice piece of s**t
Military deaths from fanatic Nazi's, and Japanese numbered in the thousands and continued for over three years after WWII victory was declared.

Sorry, but the actual number of deaths due to enemy action during he occupation of those naions by the US was more along the lines of ZERO. Geez, what an idiot.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:34 PM
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17. "one of the world's most growth-oriented investment and banking laws"
Chalabi and the old BCCI gang have gotta love that.

Sounds neat-o!

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:36 PM
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18. I can't read it all
But I did notice that water is at 2/3 prewar level and phone at 3/4 prewar level. That means we've had control for over 8 months and haven't got things at prewar levels yet.

That's progress?

Point that out to your pal if you talk to him.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 07:18 PM
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20. Oh, Puhleeeeze!
Let me roll my pantlegs up....the shit's getting awfully deep! :grr:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 07:23 PM
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21. Again with the Bullshit about "it is going to take time"
And "no one said it would be easy"....


Jesus fucking Christ, this shit really pisses me off?

Its going to take some time??? No fucking shit it will. The left was saying that last December!
It won't be easy??? Bullshit! Why the fuck did military leaders and people in the administration treat this like a cakewalk????
Moreover, why did anyone who said, before the war, that this wouldn't be easy get labled as treasonous or an America-hater???

:wtf: ???

BTW: I am suprised they didn't list, as another selling point, "We have some of the electricity back, and we have managed to begin rebuilding the critical infrastructure that we knocked out with our 'shock and awe'."


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Eochaidh Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 07:26 PM
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22. i was recently in iraq
for work-related reasons, and yes, you can buy satellite dishes on every street corner, and there are a hell of a lot of newspapers (most are actually 1 page flyers). regretably, however, the rest of that email is utterly false. if iraq is in such good shape, why did we have to bring our own toilets, generators, water, food, weapons, body armor, shelter, and such? because there was NO USEABLE INFRASTRUCTURE IN IRAQ!!! they have nicely paved highways, and that's about it.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:46 PM
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23. And we had to attack them and kill
thousands of Iraqis just so we could do all those nice things for them.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:59 PM
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24. Any reconstruction actually done by Iraqis done at a fraction of the cost
Edited on Mon Dec-01-03 09:00 PM by grannylib
that Halliburton would have charged...
And Bush has been nothing BUT a faltering failure from the moment he burst forth from the womb.
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ethimtemp Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 11:27 PM
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26. If things are so great there, ............
If things are so great there, then I suggest the freeper/neo-con/repug that wrote this should relocate there.

Sounds like a nice place to raise a family with all the new universities, schools, hospitals and social tranquility there.

Sure beats the thousands of foreclosures and layoffs here in the U.S.
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angka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 11:46 PM
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28. grr
they forgot to mention that none of these reconstruction steps would have been necessary were it not for ten years of baby-killing US-mandated sanctions!

they're right about one thing, though: alot of manufacturing going on over there.
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