Black Box Voting - Something's going to happen.

During the next 6 days, three things are going to break. I need volunteers to pick up the ball when each of the three things hits.

1) Computer people, again
2) Pound the pavement activists (phone calls, emails and letters)
3) Researchers and fact checkers

These are three separate projects which will be broken by three separate activists within a seven-day time frame. It's hard to tip over an elephant, but if it ain't at least off-balance after we get done this month, I will eat MY shoe.

What to do: Register for Activism Forum at http://www.blackboxvoting.org and sign in under your state or country. Be patient with me as I am juggling a lot of plates this week and am slow to respond to queries. If you have an immediate need for assistance, send to RedEagle or JohnGideon.

Post in the talent pool. This one hits four companies.

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

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Why do you hate America so much?

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are all haters? Good lord man...get with it!

:hi: back at cha!

Hope you don't have to eat your shoe, Bev.

However, after reading the Krugman piece on BBV- I think it'll be something else.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/opinion/02KRUG.html

http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/2003/12/01/diebold/index.html

And very good news... that he has...

al

I am so fucking impressed - may it turn into a HUGE blaze!!!
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And I love you Bev!
Not in a gay way.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...

And it looks like Krugman is planning more columns!

I can't remember the last time I've used this many
CAPS and exclamation marks in the same post!!!!!!!!!!!!

Krugman is my FAVORITE.

I wrote him about your findings on Nov 10,
and I'm sure others have been writing him too.
Some here have confirmed that they did.
But I assume my letter was only a small part of the critical mass,
and you were a big part.

Krugman is absolutely the *best* person, in my wildest dreams,
to report this. No one has more credibility or visibility.
He's at the biggest newspaper.
And he stands out at that paper 'cause he's so excellent,
but their undeserved prestige is a fact we're currently stuck with.
Even though I wrote to Ellis Henican about it at
the same time (and Ellis is normally so responsive to his
readers, but he ignored me this time), I was so hoping that Krugman
would pick it up.

I wrote to him again tonight to thank him and...ask some
more questions. It appears he's doing a series on Diebold.
How effin fantastic is that?

Thank you gawd for Paul Krugman. And Bev Harris. And DU...

He's taking on some very dangerous people head on and repeatedly.

Amazing tenacity/perseverance for a NYT writer...

I hope he looks out for himself, avoids
small planes and all the other obvious stuff.
He's taking on one of the biggest and most
immediate issues. No doubt one nearest and dearest
to the Pug's hearts...or the black hole where their
hearts would be if they had hearts.

Stay well Paul.

I think BushInc. will try to ruin them both somehow, just as they have tried with everyone who has investigated one of their covert ventures.

I hope the two of you have availed yourselves of good security measures. You always have a place to run to if necessary.

Krugman.

KRUGMAN.

Thank you, God. You answered my prayer. KRUGMAN IS ON BOARD!

(BTW, his new book RULES. BUY IT.)

But I do my part getting the message out up here about the attempted vote fixing being run by Repug sympathizers.

Canadians can't believe that there's no paper ballot. As one old guy told me, "It sure would be easy to fix an election otherwise."

Out of the mouths of old men...

I worry that if it can't be stopped in the US, the next push will be to try it in Canada using the same faux arguments of speed and convenience. I do the same as you, try from north of the border to share information via every avenue I have.

There is a section for Canadians in the Black Box Voting Activism Forum so register and start the conversation going.

And just this weekend I pulled an article on Diebold voting machine purchases in about six cities in Canada a few years back.

Cheerio.

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.

I didn't know that there was a place for us, I have just registered.

all of the good work you're doing on this issue on your own time and at your own expense . . . please know that I, for one -- and I'm sure many others -- deeply appreciate your efforts and consider you something of a modern day hero in this particular fight . . . keep up the good work, and know that there are thousands of us cheering you on every step of the way . . .
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That I dont thank the stars for Bev's (and the DU BBV crew's) tireless efforts to ensure REAL

I N T E G R I T Y ...

in our election processes ...

Patriotism ISNT about fawning after the Princes in power, hoping to scrape up some of their fallen crumbs: It's about faithful adherence to civic honesty, and fidelity to our nation's democracy ....

I really cant say it enough: ... Thank You Bev .....

Damn: ... wasnt Krugman's piece superb ? ....

Yum ....

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al

And we'll keep this kicked.

I'll do whatever I can to help!
This issue is our highest national priority IMO.

Thank you for all your hard work on it!

Hope I can help in some way. Would whatever you're doing this week be of interest to a certain person I told you I would be watching on AOL? He sure has been online a LOT lately. :D

the rabid rascals ran.

Either I am

A. Hungry...haven't eaten today
B. Somebody stop me
C. Hard to keep a good story down

I vote A

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have you seen this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=247892

But can't give EFF any kudos publicly because she's accused them of filing qui tam lawsuits and made public derogatory statements about EFF. Wouldn't do to admit she was WRONG, now would it?

The biggest blabbermouths you can imagine, (where's that duct tape when you need it?) Jim March (smack)Andy and (put a bandanna on this big mouth) Me.

The jugglers of the volunteers are:
RedEagle
JohnGideon

The projects are:

1) Jim March has some officially obtained files, which will probably post sometime tomorrow, that may have much to tell us. The faster we analyze them the better.

2) Andy is up to his arse in alligators and we need public help on his project TONIGHT (if we can dash out of the gate with the rest of this I may call a press conference as early as Wednesday or Thursday)
What we need for now, and for reasons we cannot say what it is quite yet, is this:
- Go to any state forum, but especially -- what were they, Andy? Maryland, Alabama, Wyoming, help me out, big guy, post the rest here -- and enter the following information: For any county with ANY BRAND of optical scan or touch-screen, get the contact name and the phone number and post it in the state forum with the county name. If you can find it, get the type of voting machine and/or company or brand.

3) My project is in a private forum, scroll way down and if you can see it, you're in. It is for anal-retentive people and people who have access to any of the following for research: Lexis-Nexis, Factiva, SEDAR, a public library in Vancouver Canada, or to coin a phrase from ParanoidPat's brother, "massive parallel browsing" capabilities. This is an assignment to meticulously fact-check Chapter 6 (almost all new) which will be posted in that private forum in the wee hours of this morning. No blabbermouths allowed. If you can help with this and don't see the forum, contact RedEagle or JohnGideon with your particulars and see if they'll open the door a bit wider.

Bev Harris
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

He is being very closed mouthed, hasn't even told me. And now I must go to sleep. Good luck.

just giggling like a school girl oh and the states are


District of Columbia
New Mexico
Alabama
Maryland
Utah
Rhode Island
Florida
Wyoming
New York
Tennessee

Maybe Andy, you or someone can post what we need in each of them?


Bev

could not even get it from me.

"Loose lips sink ships".

Got access and obsession. -CV

New Mexico
Iowa
Colorado
Kansas
Illinois
Georgia
Florida


At least, on my list.

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this is awesome. I will post in the talent pool, even though I am more of a rambling lunatic type and not sure of my uses to this struggle.

KRUGMAN!!!
WOW!!!!!!!

nice work!

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I got your back BEV on the phone calls !

...did a lovely job of simplifying the matter for readers. I salute him for that.

because it is important.

You have my e-mail. When it starts, let me know....

Martin

It proves that if you can help someone grasp all the facts, they respond the same way the rest of us did!

I love how Krugman calls on the mainstream media to look into it! Think Faux News will take him up on his challenge?

in a word...No.

Sort of- @4.00am anyway

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=779032

Big ups to CBS

eom

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Kick :kick:

Well, excuuuuuse him! How can he NOT be partisan in this chilling political climate? (I consider him to be Talent on loan from the Universe)

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Kick!

just an excuse to kick

lots of activity at bbv.org activist forum. Check it out.

Bev: I just signed up and posted a link to West Virginia's voting systems for each county. I've emailed our Secretary for information on the specific manufacturers and will post the response/information.

Good work woman!! Thank you.

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Kick!!!

Electronic Voting Firm Drops Legal Case

SAN JOSE, Calif. - In a major victory for free speech enthusiasts on the Internet, Diebold Inc. has agreed not to sue voting rights advocates who publish leaked documents about the alleged security breaches of electronic voting.

A Diebold spokesman promised in a conference call Monday with U.S. District Judge Jeremy Fogel and attorneys from the Electronic Frontier Foundation that it would not sue dozens of students, computer scientists and ISP operators who received cease-and-desist letters from August to October.

Diebold also promised not to file lawsuits against two Swarthmore College students and a San Francisco-based Internet service provider for copyright infringement, according to a motion that company attorneys filed Nov. 24 in San Jose's federal court.

Diebold did not disclose specifics on why it had dropped its legal case, but the decision is a major reversal of the company's previous strategy. North Canton, Ohio-based Diebold, which controls more than 50,000 touch-screen voting machines nationwide, had threatened legal action against dozens of individuals who refused to remove links to its stolen data.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031202/ap_on_hi_te/electronic_voting_lawsuit

just signed on the talent pool and under my state of Illinois. Just tell me what ya need and I'll see what I can do.

nt

It's been tough of late - watching the TV news propaganda, reading lies in the newspaper and wondering why so many important stories are not being examined by the press. It's natural to feel pessimistic about our future and the state of our democracy. Meanwhile, the entrenched and corrupt powers that be appear to consolidating their power. It's easy to get discouraged and become cynical.

At the darkest moment, the blinding light of truth comes shining through. Whenever I read the BBV threads and see the grassroots work of good people, modern day minutemen and women, people like Bev and the BBV activisits, I feel hope.

Thank you. You are making a difference in so many ways!

Just a shameleess kick.

Good stuff on www.blackboxvoting.org. If you haven't been there, you're missing the action!

A report on Washington and California's voting machines...WOW! You could knock me over with a feather.

well, I guess it WAS a pig flying over Lexington Avenue after all....

heh

;)

Posterity...I have to go to the subway .

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all that he does for the "good fight."

Can't get it here.

Kick!

or it hasn't been on. But the rest of the stuff, yughhh!

Thanks for that reminder ignatius.

I hope I can help. I am making all kinds of noise here in NC!... :)

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is good!.. Kick!

very good. Kick

thank you so much for your good work and that of your compatriots. :)

These are actual election files from an election last month in Tennessee, obtained through a discovery motion.

The two small files are up now; the bigger, more complex one will be up by morning. They are located at the BlackBoxVoting.org forum, about third topic down, titled "current project (Jim March)

Bev

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I posted about this the other nite..it was written up on the editorial page of the Scranton Times newspaper! :-)

I'm ready to do whatever it takes in this fight.

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I'll see what I can do, I have much on my plate also.

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Not a computer whiz, and in the wrong country to help otherwise,
but what you've been doing is great.

off the 10th page.

Bev is very, very busy and doesn't have a lot of time to post, so keep the word in circulation.

And I got (most of) my computer back up too! :evilgrin:

Oh! And it's raining in California! :kick:

Welcom back Pat :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=255452

Welcome Back PP! We can't afford to lose you. We need your talents, and humor.