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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:00 AM
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Poll question: POLL: Which Democratic candidate is your last choice?
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 11:00 AM by Silverhair
Just like it says. Bush isn't on the list. Which Democratic candidate do you least want to head the list? I have included one who isn't a formal candidate but who gets talked about a whole lot Hillary.

Me? I'm still a Clark supporter and Sharpton got my vote for last.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:02 AM
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1. This is just more candidate bashing
and misses the point of what's going on COMPLETELY. * IS part of the equation - it comes down to who here really wants dumbass out of office. I purposely put * on the bottom to get people to pay attention to what is going on here - everybody seems to be so caught up in their "I hate this candidate" outlook that they are forgetting who the target really is - and it's NONE of the Dem candidates (though even I would be hard pressed to vote for Joe).

Let's not lose focus people - putting * back in the WH is the worst thing for this country and the world.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:08 AM
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4. You are taking it too seriously. n/t
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:37 PM
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52. I agree...but ain't it fun??
;) but where's Daschle's name?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:02 AM
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2. I picked Sharpton
In the interests of intellectual honesty.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:07 AM
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3. I picked Lieberman last
but of course would take him over Dudya.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:14 AM
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5. I picked Clark
because I think we should vote only for a democrat.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:15 AM
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7. Like those democrats
that voted to give Dubya a blank check on Iraq or his tax cuts?
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knowledgeispower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:00 PM
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15. As if Clark wouldn't have?!
He was championing the war before it got underway. His only problem was with how the war was conducted, not with the war itself. Don't delude yourself.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:08 PM
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18. why don't you provide a quote
because that isn't true.

Clark was a registered independant, not a republican, and he has voted for, and contributed to democrats for more than a decade, including when he was in high levels of the military, a place where you aren't supposed to be political.

Clark is my guys main opponent right now, but I'm not gonna lie about him to get ahead
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:07 PM
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32. Ain't no such thing in Arkansas, dude
.
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knowledgeispower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:02 PM
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16. Clark scares me, Leiberman is just a jackass
Clark's whole thing is that Bush isn't doing enough on the war on terrorism. I don't know quite what his vision of the war on terror is, but I am sure that it is way off the mark. I think he too sees it as an opportunity to expand the empire, but just wants to go about it in a different way (ie. more friendly-like but with the same end results).

As for Leiberman, he is quite harmless. Yeah he says some shit that pisses me off, but I wouldn't live in fear under a Leiberman administration.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:07 PM
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17. boo!
Scare ya? Karl Rove just loves you folks. He can play you like a fiddle so well. He knows you like a book and knows you'll take any bait thrown out there. So basically, you think Clark is a lier when he presents a view against empire. How do you know he is lying to everyone in the debates, in his books, etc? Show me where he is lying so I can see it too in order to identify it.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:13 PM
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19. expand the american empire?
Why do you have to pull all of these assumptions out of the air, there is nothing to back up these implications you've given about Clark.

Clark has faught in battle, lost friends, and lost troops he was commanding. He has no history of recklessness or corruption and it's wrong of you to slander him.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:29 PM
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20. educate yourself
in order to know about Clark before you lay down the outragious and baseless claims. Would you like a copy of Winning Modern Wars to help? He says America already has a virtual empire. There is no need for a classical one where you conquer and rule other countries. He said the invasion of Iraq was not the real war on terrorism. He said the new ads by bush claiming democrats are attacking him while he fights terrorism is wrong. He said democrats are attacking bush because he isn't fighting terrorism. He is against the PNAC. So how in the world do you come out with these ridiculous claims?
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:31 PM
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30. Those aren't outragious claims...
are you calling him a leir?
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:01 PM
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23. Have you heard Lieberman speak about "the war on terror"?
It's like everything he says is directly out of the PNAC Handbook. Everything. And yet you think that Clark is a greater threat than Lieberman. Your post is a perfect example of sheer ignorance.
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AmericanDem Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:02 PM
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36. it appears, Dean scares more people!
according to this poll!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:15 AM
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6. Anyone who doesn't pick Lieberman
Is a liar!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:20 AM
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:23 AM
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9. Yup
Lieberman over Kerry.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:25 AM
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10. No way
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:50 PM
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48. I picked Clark
I'm no liar, I really think he's a train wreck already happening.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:35 PM
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50. I agree
I see Dean Clark people trying to drag down the other side in this poll. I think 90% of DUers agree Joe is the worst we could do.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:47 PM
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53. Not this one
Clark is the worst we could do
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Sandstorm Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:28 AM
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11. I picked Kucinich
That would be a disaster.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:30 AM
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12. CMB has no shame.
Illinois voters booted this scumbag out of her Senate seat, and she has the gall to think that she's worthy of even being considered as a possible nominee?

Go fish, carol.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:33 AM
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13. I think her voting to override Clinton's veto
of the 'don't let analysts or board members or CEO's be punished for fraud' bill was the last straw for me where she's concerned.

She joined Lieberman and Feinstein to vote with the Repugs on that one. Good job!
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 11:57 AM
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14. Lieberman
He's completely wrong politically AND he can't beat Bush.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:21 PM
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26. Why not? He's done it before.
I've always thought he has the best possible "one liner" in the campaign with his "I know I can beat Bush, I've done it once before".

I'm not saying he's at the top of my list (though many of us HAVE voted for him before and I know quite a few CT Dems who LOVE the guy). Just that he wouldn't be at the bottom. There are some third-party candidates who will get my vote ahead of Sharpton (though he IS entertaining).
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:25 PM
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28. Gore beat Bush
Liberman was just along for the ride and, IMHO, dragged him down. It's also kind of ironic for Lieberman to be saying something like that when he had the audacity to be criticizing the Gore campaign last fall.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:30 PM
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29. OK. but...
Gore had the "audacity" to criticize Clinton as well.

Losing is ALWAYS someone else's fault. But I always remember that we would never have to argue about FL if Gore had carried his home state. Carter got his home state in a landslide loss, Mondale got his in a bigger one.

Though I do think that Lieberman hurt us a lot during the recount.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:36 PM
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21. Liebermensch
yeah, that's the ticket.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:52 PM
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22. Clark
But just barely behind Lieberman at this point.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:06 PM
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25. Wow! You surely swing widely!
I guess I feel safer with you out than in! ;-)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:04 PM
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24. Used to be Joe. Then Gephardt's last two votes put him there
Then the C-Flag, the whitewashing, the trolling and the smneering boppers when I am collecting signatures - and the winner is: Howard Dean!!!!
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:24 PM
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27. This is BullS*ht
I find it very hard to believe that what, 30/15 DU'ers would rather have Lieberman than Dean/Clark. Yeah, right, to all of you out there voting for spite,STOP. We all know it's not true...This partisianship over the candidates is getting out of control.
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webkev Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:32 PM
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31. JL
someone should tell him he is the wrong party..
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:50 PM
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35. Read the topic: LAST candidate - LAST ON YOUR LIST
As in vote off the island?
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:44 PM
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46. No, I know. I was saying it's Bullsh*t that Clark or Dean even got votes
That would mean that those voting for Clark or Dean would rather have Lieberman than their hated Clark or Dean, which ever the case may be. I don't buy that, its just petty people voting and that's why this poll is bullsh*t...
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:20 PM
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33. Lieberman
If he were president I fear it would be 'business as usual' in terms of the Iraq quagmire.
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:26 PM
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34. Lieberman, obviously.
I do not vote for republican. Lieberman, Zell Miller, they are worse than DINOS, they are for all intents and purposes, repug plants working to undermine the party. I'm all for moderates, but if you're a right winger, join the damn GOP already!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:04 PM
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37. Lieberman
Yes folks, I even like him less than Dean, but he is lagging in the polls, so he gets off easier than the Vermont Waffle. :evilgrin:
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:21 PM
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40. Not Sharpton?
Lieberman is better than Sharpton. Sharpton's the worst.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:08 PM
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38. the polarizing caused Dean's fans
For the alleged front-runner, I notice he ranks only second to Lieberman (who actually got my vote in this poll, so relax), and that isn't good.

Looks like all the relentless proselytizing, juvenile, taunting, cheerleading, browbeating, brownshirt board spamming has had the effect of alienating many potential supporters.

I urge those who don't like Dean to look past his following, and look at his record. There is plenty to not like there. You've got to come by your lack of support for Dean honestly. :-)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:03 PM
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41. That's how I came by my distrust.
Anyone who is liked by the CATO Institute is loathed by me.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 03:20 PM
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39. Sharpton
As for people putting Lieberman ahead of that piece of trash I don't understand it.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:48 PM
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47. What's wrong with Sharpton?
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:05 PM
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42. Lieberman
eom
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:29 PM
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44. I picked Sharpton..
He's running on a platform, but doesn't have specific plans, at least not that I am aware of.

Lieberman..I understand that he's conservative in comparison to any of the other Democrats, but what are the specific issues that make him equal to a Republican?
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:06 PM
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43. Clark beat out Holy Joe with his pro-business it is OK to move
mid-class jobs to India. We still have Mc Jobs here.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:42 PM
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45. Clinton isn't a candidate.
Are you with Faux or something? (just kidding)
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:31 PM
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49. Having some fun with the poll, that's all.
She gets talked aobut a lot, so I thought it would be fun to put her in the poll. After all, the poll has no standing of any kind.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:37 PM
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51. Lieberman only has 55%?
:wtf:
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