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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:30 PM
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Jobs Are Out There, But.......

The problem is how much do they pay.

I have a friend who just lost his job a couple months ago. He worked for a
company that outsourced work to companies like hospitals etc.

He did data entry for the hospital and he networked computers so they could
talk to each other etc. He has a degree in computers from a local college.

So he went on unemployment and signed up with a job agency. They would
send him 1 or 2 jobs a week to look at, guess what, they were all low wage
crap jobs at burger king etc. Not one paid more that $6 an hour.

Here is the kicker, he makes more on unemployment than he would if he took
any of the jobs they offered him. He would take a pay cut to work, the damn
unemployment pays more than the jobs they want him to do.

And this guy is smart, with a college degree in computers. He can build a computer
and troubleshoot/repair it etc. He can do just about anything involved with computers.

Yet the job service was sending him burger flipping jobs, they did not send him one
job that has anything to do with computers.

So there are jobs out there, too bad none of them pay a living wage or have health insurance.

The media only reports the number of jobs, but they never tell you what kind of jobs they are.

I read that 40% of the 126,000 jobs created in October were low paying burger flipping service
sector type jobs. Funny how the media never mentions that, those jobs will not sustain our
economy, sooner or later the people in the middle and lower class will not make enough money
to buy anything.


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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:49 PM
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1. McJobs
A vast majority of the new jobs being created are low paying, no benefit types.


Surge in new jobs, but most are low-paying

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001786196_jobs08.html

The U.S. economy has begun to create jobs, pushing the national unemployment rate to its lowest level since last spring.

But most of the new jobs were part time or in low-paying sectors, such as education, health care and services.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 01:35 PM
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2. Outsourcing
The number one issue in America today IMO.

I was talking to a group of doctor friends and was surprised to learn that when they take notes on their computer during an appointment, those notes are now organized and filed electronically in patients files by internists in India.

I'd love some ideas on how to stop this because it's really hurting our country. The economic way for it to stop is for our standard of living to drop and India's to come up, and when salaries are about the same, then there will no longer be an advantage to outsource. That's really not the solution I'm looking for though.

PS-- Tell your friend not to depend on an agency to find him a job. If he finds a good job it will be due to his own legwork. I'm sure he's probably already doing that too.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:16 PM
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3. That was my dilemma, also
--I had a well-paying contract job in IT. The contract ended, and comparable jobs just weren't (aren't) available where I live. You better believe my unemployment paid more than many of the jobs out there. That is freaking crazy.

A month after my UI payments ended, I've done some *very* short-term IT projects (I mean a day here and there). I'm getting the hell out of IT and going into radiologic (x-ray) technology. There is still a decent job market in health care, if you are willing to nurse or do healthcare tech stuff. So far, you still have to be present in the room to take x-rays or administer meds, so hopefully those jobs won't be shipped off anytime soon.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:20 PM
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4. Cincinnati Enquirer
Sunday Classifieds Section. The big day for Help Wanted Ads. You know how many advertisements they had for IT Professionals?

Three.

Not three pages, not three columns. Three positions. Total.

The entire employment section (which used to be 2-3 sections during the bad old days of the Clinton Administration) was less than seven pages. That's everything from nurses to attorneys to parttime waitresses. Total.

The recession's over, they say? Fat chance.

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:26 PM
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5. 3rd quarter burger flippers-
someone has to take over those daytime jobs when the kids go back to school...and since they're going to school, they're not "unemployed", so "voila!" a Mcjob has been created.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 02:26 PM
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6. Capital spending is up, but it's not structural
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. (CBS.MW) -- The good news is that business spending on capital goods is rising sharply. The bad news is that it not only won't do much to create new jobs here in the United States -- it might even lead to more layoffs.

(snip)

The urge to splurge is continuing so far in the current quarter. Orders for durable goods rose a hefty 3.3 percent in October -- the most in a year. What's more, core capital goods orders, a good proxy for business investment plans, are now almost 13 percent above year-ago levels.

While this is benefiting some U.S. companies, mainly those in the primary metals, electronics and transportation industries, it's more of a help to firms based overseas.

This is because most of the equipment that U.S. companies buy these days -- especially computers -- is built, at least in part, offshore.

Another point to ponder: this new equipment is being purchased in order for companies to be more productive. And while increased productivity helps the corporate bottom line, it usually reduces the need for workers.

(snip)

http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B2B03CEA9%2DA863%2D4DE6%2DBAF8%2D50C083017AC3%7D&siteid=mktw

Looks like the jobless recovery is only for the corporate bottom line, but I don't think it's going to save that either. Just keep hammering Bush on jobs and get people out to vote. No president other than Hoover has had a negative job growth.
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