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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:21 PM
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Max Cleland for VP ?
Not sure if this has been suggested before !

War hero
Southerner
Fairly moderate
Democratic partisan
Martyred at the alter of Republican dirty tricks
Neutralizes Zell Millers support of Bush (somewhat)
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:23 PM
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1. He doesn't have a leg to stand on
Ok, that was politically incorrect, but someone
was going to say it.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:24 PM
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2. Max stands taller than any GOP chickenhawk
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:27 PM
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6. Damn!
I made a joke like that and it was deleted. Nice to see the tolerance level rising around here.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:25 PM
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3. I think he's pretty damn liberal for a Georgian
Quite frankly, it might be a good idea--bring back the whole idea of how the Repukes martyred him, and probably stole his seat. Might show the Dems aren't afraid of confrontation--oh, wait a minute, they are.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:25 PM
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4. Cleland
He'll have to respond more pointedly to attacks than he did in 2002.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:25 PM
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5. It's about time we let the brave ones who fought in Vietnam...
... forge a direction for our future, vis-a-vis unnecessary, immoral wars.

I'd support Max in any capacity. Go Max!!
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:27 PM
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7. No, Max for Veteran's Affairs Secretary
Sadly the press would eat him alive. The greatest President ever FDR was protected and respected by the press of the time. Today he would be denounced as a polio cripple unworthy of leading the nation and many Americans would believe it.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:30 PM
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10. I disagree with that
I think we are past that. Plus FDR had a disease, Cleland was wounded in war. I think it would get different play in the press...and in a curious way would be a constant reminder to voters of his service
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:06 PM
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18. Max was Veterans Affairs Secretary under Carter
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:08 PM
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19. sweet, I did not know that
does he have any interest in serving under a Democrat again?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:29 PM
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8. I read a few days ago Cleland left the 9/11 commission for a Bush post.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:35 PM
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13. Export-Import Bank
Big deal...not a partisan post. Wouldn't matter one bit. I'm sure he'd resign from that in a second were he to be the choice.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:15 PM
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21. Did he actually take the position offered?
What I read said he was offered the position and would have to leave the 9/11 commission. Does anyone know if he actually accepted and left the commission.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:58 PM
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23. To even consider a Bush appointment after what Ralph Reed/Rove
did to him last year, disqualifies him for the second spot.

He should have told them to go to hell.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:58 PM
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24. To even consider a Bush appointment after what Ralph Reed/Rove
did to him last year, disqualifies him for the second spot.

He should have told them to go to hell.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:30 PM
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9. Not unless
he explains why he allowed W to take him off the 9-11 Commission.

Second, what happened on the morning of 9-11 when General Myers was meeting with him in his office. Myers says he knew the first WTC had been attacked but didn't pay it much mind and he spent the next hour with Cleland until he came out again and was told the Pentagon had been hit. Didn't Cleland think it odd that Myers wasn't concerned about a jet hit the WTC? That he didn't even check in with the Pentagon or that no one placed an emergency call to the General until after the Pentagon was hit?
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:33 PM
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11. Perhaps
Perhpas it was because the initial reports were that it was a small plane. I'd give Max the benefit of the doubt.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 09:19 PM
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27. Myers claims he saw it on TV
before he went into Cleland's office. Anyone could see from the pictures that there was major damage to the first tower that had to be from something bigger than a small plane. Besides Myers would have been briefed on the warnings about al Qaeda wanting to use planes to fly into buildings (google Project Bojinka). We're not talking about an average citizen who wasn't privy to such knowledge. As soon as Myers, Rumsfled and/or W heard about the first plane alarm bells should have been going off.
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:35 PM
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12. Well 275 to 263 X beats Bush
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 05:36 PM by Noordam
IMHO Max would put Georgia in Dems hands and using the handy dandy map at http://www.johnedwards2004.com/map/ I get 275 electors for X, and 263 for Bush.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:39 PM
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14. Georgia is Diebold center USA
I bet you $5 it will "vote" for bush in 2004
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:58 PM
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17. I do not know, they have a lot of ppl looking at them
where Florida has a lot less.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:39 PM
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15. Georgia is Diebold center USA
I bet you $5 it will "vote" for bush in 2004
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 05:54 PM
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16. He Badmouthed Howard Dean
pretty badly about the draft thing.

Not that I'm saying Howard Dean is the man. Please don't flame me Dean haters.

But based on what Cleland said last week, I don't think he'd be interested in working with Dr. Dean.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:27 PM
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25. That would be water under the bridge
Were he offered the spot...I'd be willing to bet he would jump at the chance !
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:12 PM
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20. A hell of a good idea! *****OR:
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 06:18 PM by Hubert Flottz
Handing him Ashcroft's job would be nice too! OR maybe Rumbo's job!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 06:19 PM
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22. Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes. Great idea!
Could we be so lucky? He would beat Cheney in a debate.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 08:38 PM
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26. He'd beat Cheney at a debate
But I'd much rather he just run for the Senate in 2004 for Zell's seat. Cleland would likely win (he wouldn't be blindsided again) and it would be great to have in the Senate again.
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