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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:15 AM
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Maybe it's not NASCAR voters - maybe it's WALMART voters ?
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0349/perlstein.php

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Stony is the kind of guy liberals love to worry about, the kind they fret they can't win over by next year's election. He works the midnight shift as a "picker" at a nearby grocery warehouse—the very job Tom Wolfe depicts as the soul of thankless blue-collar humiliation in his latest novel. Stony talks proudly about his union and, quietly, mentions his fears that his workplace "could have a shutdown any day. You never know."

Liberals: Worry less. Stony no longer supports George Bush: "Because of the war. Too many people dyin'." Neither does his drunken friend, who pipes up: "I hate him. Because there are kids getting killed every single day."

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Worry less. Intriguing cracks are opening in the Republican firmament. Take the factory owners I meet in the Rock River Valley's population center, the city of Rockford, who are ready to burn George Bush in effigy.

"I'm very conservative," Eric Anderberg of Dial Machine says, in the boardroom of the machine-parts factory his family built in 1966. "Always voted Republican. But I'm extremely concerned with what I hear from this current administration." Eric is 32, fiercely political, and articulate. He's called over two of his older industrial-park neighbors, Don Metz of Metz Tool and Judy Pike of Acme Grinding. Family manufacturers like these were the foundation of the modern conservative movement, reacting against the moderate Republicanism of Dwight Eisenhower in the '50s. Now they are a wedge in the Republican coalition. I ask if they could imagine supporting, for president, a Democrat. Don Metz, who in his golf shirt looks like he just came back from a midday round, doesn't hesitate: "No problem. Somebody steps forward and says we're going to make manufacturing a priority in this country." They would even donate the legal maximum of $2,000.

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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:25 AM
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1. Well
Given how many DUers insult these same voters it may very well be hard. I still am shocked at some of the rude posts I saw here when news of that woman being trampled came through. Being snobby and self-righteous is not going to connect us to those voters.
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JoeMemphis Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:08 AM
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3. Well said!
Many of these middle-class, blue-collar, church-going voters are natural Democrats who don't want to see their jobs "free traded" out to China or India. The best way to lose their votes is to insult them.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 11:46 AM
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5. Yeah
But the problem is too many on the left look down on them and ridicule their values.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 11:46 AM
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6. Yeah
But the problem is too many on the left look down on them and ridicule their values.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 11:54 AM
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8. We can add to that list
urban voters and Southern voters. The vitriol I see here with regard to these two categories makes my skin crawl.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 04:30 PM
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9. I know it does
nt
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 12:45 AM
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2. Doesn't Fox broadcast Nascar? Ever wonder how they came up with the term?
Gee, now Fox is even writing our language for us.

NASCAR dads. Good God, I've hated that fucking term since the first time I heard it.

It's right up there with "homicide bombers".

A Pox on Pox News.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 01:19 AM
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4. Did you miss the
memo from Fox..its "Soccer Moms" this election year.

I think its the libertarian's that kill us and the fact that so many Walmart shoppers don't vote period. I try to talk a little politics or show a video to folks at work and you can just see their eyes glaze over like their brain instantly shuts down.

Now I had a great discussion with a libertarian that works in our warehouse, we manufacture plastics, we had common ground on foreign policy Middle East and Iraq... but domestic stuff oh boy, he believes that if a child is born into a family that made mistakes then that is just the way it should be. Government has no place in education, or financial aid, etc. He is from Louisiana rural area.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-03 11:50 AM
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7. "the NASCAR voters" is a ruse....rove fear talking point
NASCAR voters have always voted for repuke....it is a moot issue
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