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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:42 PM
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Any of you guys think Republican officials have sociopathic traits?
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 11:43 PM by FDRrocks
I was just sitting around, and thought about this. This really isn't limited to one party. Or even officials... maybe the media talking heads.

I mean... they vote for (i.e. take part in) all this insanely wicked crap... yet they wake up in the morning and act like nothing happened. I would wager that if you showed most Conservatives officials pictures of dead Iraqi children that they helped kill... they would rattle off a cold-as-ice-tape-recorded response to how neccesary it was (kinda like Albright and the Iraqi Children question on the interview).

Rush and Hannity... they know they are spinning. Propagandizing Goebbels style. They know it. Yet they wake up and live thier lives. Maybe Rush popping all those pills shows his humanity to some point.

What do you guys think?

edit: wrong subject word.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:44 PM
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1. Either that, or psychopathic
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:44 PM
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2. One look into
Paul Wolfowitz's eyes will confirm this hypothesis.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:12 AM
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15. I don't like Wolfowitz
but I don't think he's a sociopath...

I get the impression that's Paul's a nice guy.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:45 PM
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3. and the sheep have
Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:46 PM
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4. sure, but I do too :D
only my evil is more like a vengeful God, old testament style of evil... it's better to do evil than be evil, that was the theme of this WW2 movie I saw a while ago about a man who had to do some bad things, but saved a lot of lives. It was like Schindler's list, but in color... I forget the title.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:48 PM
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5. Yea but seriously...
If you were Delay... you helped fuck up Medicare, start an illegal war, further a completely destructive agenda in the interests of the elite (contrary to democracy) etc....

Would you be able to live with yourself?
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:52 PM
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7. but sociopaths don't feel they've done anything wrong...
if I were to do stuff like that, but for a liberal agenda, I might feel guilty... but if I felt I was doing the right thing, I wouldn't hesitate for a second... like confronting Reagan, for instance. It's always been a fantasy for me. To come face to face with that wrinkled senile bastard and let him know what an evil person he is and what suffering and death his policies have caused.

Most people would feel guilty about yelling and insulting a 92 year old Alzheimer's patient... but not me. :D
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:57 PM
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10. Yea but the Reagan thing...
is more like putting a despot in his place. You aren't ending his life or anything relatively serious. I'm sure he was aware. Whether he felt bad or not is a different thing. I'm of the opinion that he was pretty much a dumb figurehead and 1980 was the year NeoCons and the bastard Bushies started thier shitty ass agenda.
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:12 AM
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16. the inner workings of the right from 1980-1992 is interesting
lots of political drama... it isn't quite the united conspiracy people make it out to be.

Sure Reagan was somewhat of a dumb figurehead, but he was still the boss. At the end of the day, it is his signatures on all those executive orders... it was his okay to sell arms to the Contras... his okay to give Saddam support... his okay to cut taxes for the rich and raise them on everyone else.

Inept and ignorant or not, he's still responsible.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:52 PM
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6. O.K. here's my
idiotic theory. Mind you, I am an atheist. About 2000 years ago, Lucifer picked a fight with Jesus. Jesus, being a liberal, fought fair. But Lucifer, as a conservative, fought dirty. So Lucifer won, and he switched clothes with Jesus and started the christian religion. How else can you explain Robertson and Falwell?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:55 PM
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8. and they were of soiled pants too having farted at the wrong time.
screw them Pubs, they are evil
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:57 PM
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9. LoL that's a good one...
but I doubt it... the Orthodox church is like the Bizzarro version of the religious right... there are a lot of good Christian people. It really isn't right to group those lunatics with mainstream christianity.

I don't necessarily believe IN anything. But I have some sort of feeling that there must be something beyond death. Some sort of force or power that will hand out justice to the wicked, and reward the good and those that have suffered in life.

But then again, we could just die and be in an endless, unconscious existence like before birth. Which, if I can remember, wasn't so bad.

I think there probably was a guy named Jesus who was really wise and good, but his followers propagated myths about him. And after Christianity became mainstream, it probably became twisted over the years. Like a 2 thousand year old game of that "pass the message" game.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:58 PM
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11. Psychopathic personality traits
There was an interview a year ago with Kurt Vonnegut wherein he mentiooned the traits of psychopathis personalities. He suggested in the interview reading a book called "The Mask of Sanity" by Hervey Cleckley. I went online to purchase it and found out the entire book was available pdf online.

Read it. It explains our very existance at the hands of those currently in power.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:04 AM
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12. Thanks for the ref NSMA
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 12:04 AM by FDRrocks
I always enjoy your posts.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:07 AM
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13. Many do.
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 12:11 AM by liberalmuse
Or at the very least, a good number of them are stuck on 'Neanderthal' in the evolutionary scale. I just think some people prefer to lie to themselves so reality doesn't interfere with their perfect little world.

I don't understand the hypocrisy and blindness. At work the other day, I commented on a story someone told about a woman who stuck her arm in a wolf's cage and the wolf had to be killed in order to free her arm. I said they should have just let the wolf rip it off. The co-worker thought I was serious and was appalled, LOL. I had to explain to her a couple of times that if I had come across the situation in real life, I probably would have shot the wolf to save the woman, but my point being that it was a stupid thing for a grown woman to do, and it resulted in the senseless killing of a wolf, which kind of made me angry. She didn't get it. I guess wolves don't count or something. I'm not saying that stupid people don't count, but I've read too many stories about people doing stuff like this, and it's some innocent animal that ends up dead. Jeez. And this from the same woman who said, 'She's right!' when I mentioned Coulter's statement about killing liberals.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:10 AM
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14. Delay does
No doubt about it. That man is a freaky dude.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:23 AM
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17. Sociopathic? Or maybe just the culture?
I know a lot of you have been through basic training in the military. Try to think of the conservative culture like the second or third week of boot camp. By that time all your individual identity has been stripped away and you become part of the closed culture. You are so deeply into "group think" and values of the company that you no longer equate anything being done with either being moral or immoral, except perhaps, what you are told is moral or immoral in the context of the company. In order to gain status within the company you have to "out military the military".

In order to be a successful repub, you have to be more conservative than the other conservatives. Deviation from conservative group think is punished severely. Therefore you don't think of anything that is not in terms of repub success and, consequently, your success. There is no longer moral vs immoral, just repub success vs repub failure.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:14 AM
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19. A book to consider
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adriennel Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:26 AM
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18. where's the DSM-IV?
I tend to think of narcissim more than sociopathy--the complete inability to think of anyone but yourself and lack of empathy for others. hence, the screwing of the nation and the world for the interests of a very few.

I do however believe that Georgie Bush suffers from a serious ego problem. It's about 12 sizes too big for his head. He does not know the meaning of humility. And this is supposed to be an honorable man? Puh-leaze.
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