Bill Kristol predicts Dean will win nom; warns Repubs not to be cocky

And one of the nation's leading conservative commentators is predicting that former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean will most likely win the Democratic nomination. Bill Kristol-- who spoke at the University of Vermont Thursday night-- is the editor and publisher of the Weekly Standard magazine. He was also chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle and Education Secretary William Bennett.

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Kristol believes events in Iraq during the next six to eight months will play a key role in who wins the general election. He believes President Bush has the edge, but is warning Republicans not to be overly confident about defeating Howard Dean.

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god I hate Bill Bennett, what a piece of crap he is...

Gillespie was there earlier this week, now Kristol is speaking at the Univ. of VT.

I thought VT was just a tiny insignificant state? What's up with that?

If Rove came up here looking for dirt on Dean he didn't find any because there isn't any to be found. He's probably crapping his britches right about now. If he's smart he is.

He brought up the confederate flag thing again. Seeing as NH is just about as pale as Vermont, Liebermans silly race baiting attempt will be ignored. I just heard it playing on the tv a few minutes ago. It won't win him any votes, that's for sure.

There is no doubt. They are worried.

no way does Dubya win a fair election.

he gets BURIED this time. crushed.

he really needs to work on cutting out the gaffs (like the russian/ussr, confederate flag, secret files crap). it's obvious that he is going to get the nom, so he needs to work on sharping the message, because folks are really going to start checking him out here pretty soon.

As much as a conservative Kristol is, he is as fair-minded as the 'right' goes. He's often criticized for talking good of Democrats by his own readers. He's one of the few conservatives I can stand. On more than one occasion he has said good things about Dean.

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and I am pratically of it.

I know, he's out to rule the world with a rubber American flag stamp. I never said I liked Kristol's policies, but he is fair when assessing Democrats. He knows a threat when he sees one.

From the Boston Phoenix
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/alt1/archive/news/quote/07-11-96.html

Kristol, meanwhile, stands accused of selling out conservatism because of his dalliance with a Colin Powell presidential candidacy last fall, and of selling out Republican prospects by his repeated denigration of Bob Dole's campaign. "Bob Dole is likely to lose the presidential race to Bill Clinton," Kristol wrote in the April 29 issue. "The challenge for Republicans and conservatives is to prevent a Dole defeat from derailing the ongoing Republican realignment and from blocking the emergence of a new era of conservative governance."

Some critics wonder how Kristol could talk up the pro-choice, pro-affirmative-action Powell while trashing Dole, who despite moderate views on some issues and a lack of ideological fervor is clearly more conservative than Powell. "I think Bill Kristol is showing himself to be more of an opportunist than a principled conservative," says David Corn, Washington-bureau chief for the left-liberal Nation.

which is not speaking well of him. Ask true conservatives, Ron Paul, Pat Buchannan and Robert Novak what they think about Pax Americana.

recent interview, he mentioned neo-con plans which were remarkably similar to PNAC.

Kristol and his neocon cohorts are hiding in plain sight. The only population on the planet that is blind to their objectives resides right here in the good ol' USA.

and they know that some of us got scent that they wanted Dean. So now they are going for the reverse psychology bit...so those that were starting to realize that Dean was being pushed on us by the media whores can start saying "look, they are really scared of Dean".."look they are attacking him"...don't think that those Right Wing fools don't read DU....just ask Rush.

William Kristol is also aware, lord knows, the Clarkies have sent out enough letters saying that They were "Hip" to the game. Losta letters saying "we know you got the Karl Rove memo"...to ignore Clark and promote Dean. They even got a bunch of letters sent to his magazine, the Weekly standard, the other day for an article they wrote that tried to make Clark look like he believed in conspiracy theories. Take my word for it, these guys are aware.

Once again, we are being played....like a violin. Strum on!

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Well don't forget Fred Barnes works much of the controls at The Weekly Standard.

and the right wing propaganda machine which misled our nation into thinking Saddam and Osama were joined at the hip.

Karl Rove's famous statement that Dean was the one they want was published in Newsweek (or was it Time? I don't remember...) over the summer, so it's been public knowledge that the right wing considers Dean a pushover for several months now. So are you saying that the right is now attacking Dean so that they can fake us out and make it seem like they don't want him as the nominee, when in fact they do?

People, the right wing are a bunch of petty thugs, and we are giving them WAAAAAY too much credit. Rove's original comment about wanting Dean to be the nominee was at a time when he was an insurgent curiosity, and Rove likely completely underestimated Dean's campaign as that of some unelectable fringe lefty from hill country somewhere. To sum up: Rove was wrong, and the right is attacking Dean now because they DON'T want him to be the nominee.

Rove is hardly a genius. He is a thug. And his tactics are much more one-dimensional than we seem to collectively believe. Please don't let him pick our candidate.

Thank you.

Look at the recent CNN?USA poll Dean loses to Bush by 20 % 59-39
I have not seen a poll yet that Dean does well against Bush. Wes Clark and Kerry do the best against Bush. They are playing games with the Democratic party wishing they are concern with Dean when they know thet are licking their chops for Dean.

and the Repugs are better at it than we give them credit. If you recall they got a sitting President Impeached (although acquitted), they stole an election and trashed Al Gore, they got us into a war....so no, I won't underestimate them ...I give the credit that they deserve.....which is quite a bit actually.

Yes, they are changing tact.......they may be mean and evil, but they are'nt stupid! We just wish they were, is all.

How about a link for those poll numbers that you are citing?

Puhleeze, I would LOVE to see Dean and * in a debate. OMG! The Daily Show would have a season's worth of shows.

Latest New Hampshire Polls:

Zogby
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Dean 42
Everybody Else 37
Not Sure 19

ARG
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Dean 45
Everybody Else 40
Undecided 15

Do you think that just maybe the RW'ers are getting a little nervous about a "loony left-wing fringe anti-war Vermont Liberal" getting that much popular support in a state that voted for Bush last time?

to predict that the frontrunner will "most likely" win the nomination. It's a pretty safe thing for a pundit to "predict" - if he's right, he mentions it forever, but if he's wrong he can say "I only said 'most likely' not 'sure'."

Kristol is one of the original connected neocons, though, so he is privy to a lot of inside baseball in the White House and RNC.

He's no psychic.

Calling Dean at this point is hardly going out on a limb, either.

I really despise him and don't take anything he says at face value, although nothing he said in that piece was insightful: Iraq will be the big issue, don't underestimate Dean. *shrug*

thought "taking over the middle east" was going to be easy. Take anything this creep says and shit it out!:hurts:

It is creepy, regardless if it is true or false. In fact, he is creepy! :+