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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:47 AM
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As a Clark "attacker" I must express my outrage at Lieberman
Lieberman is on IMUS (I could not sleep and the TV is on, I have never listened before). IMUS repeatedly called Clark a "psychopath." Lieberman not only made no correction, he laughed at the comment. I feel sick with rage.

I have made many attacks against Clark's past and vagueness---but he is clearly not a "psychopath." Just as he is clearly intelligent. I am outraged. How could ANY Dem nominee laugh at another Dem nominee being called a "psychopath" on a program that draws millions of viewers?

I know Clark supporters will be surprised--but I am off to write a letter to Liebermam about this. He is a disgrace.

Lieberman also basically said Dean is a throwback to liberals who ruin the economy.

He did however call Shrub a "good guy." :puke:

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:52 AM
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1. thanks for posting
maybe after he drops out he'll endorse bush* like his twin Zell. :puke: :puke:
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:59 AM
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4. They were separated at birth
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:53 AM
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2. Lieberman is way past...
...his shelf life. I want to believe that he'll endorse the eventual nominee, but I have my doubts. Just as he did with Gore, I think he'll "endorse" him, then stab them in the back any way he can...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:58 AM
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24. He is in classic denial.......
Thinks he is a front-runner!!!!!!!

Get the man on clozaril......
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:53 AM
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3. As a virulent Clark defender, thank you
It's unbelievable how horrible Lieberman. He is a positive liability for the Party.

What exactly does Lieberman think he's doing? What's going on in his head?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:01 AM
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8. In his head?
A huge sense of entitlement, coupled with a desire to continue to be the point man for the interests of Israel.

There may have once been a time when Lyin' Lieb was The Right Man for The Job, but that ain't this time. If I were in the position to do so, I would counsel him to STFD,STFU. Now.

Also, considering how skewed against normalcy Imus' brain is, I would consider being called a Psychopath, by him, a badge of honor.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:05 AM
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9. Willy it is strange to be thanked by you
After our heated exchanges, your reply surprises me--it indicates you have character--Thanks.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:37 AM
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15. It's easy to get passionate online over nothing
Sorry about that whole tussle. Take care.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:59 AM
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5. And the Zell Miller Award for using rethug talking points goes to...
Joe Lieberman!

:puke:

Unreal. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:59 AM
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25. I wish Lieb and Zell would go ahead and...
...don the 'R' already, just so I won't feel like I'm eating my own.

He who endorses Bush gets a hearty Fuck You from me, 'D' or not.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:59 AM
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6. Imus is clearly drinking again
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 08:59 AM
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7. Lieberman is hoping to get the VP nod
...from Bush. Probably won't happen, Joe--wrong party--but nobody can say you didn't give it your all.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:09 AM
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10. And of course "He is INSANE" is Rove's #1 playbook tactic
...for handling a candidate with military credentials. "This guy's a whacko!" They used it against McCain and they're already using it against Clark. I've seen it repeated here, too, in so many words.

Odd how effective the meme machine is at implanting these viruses and getting them to spread. Used to be called a "whisper campaign." Used to be considered lowball at its worst. But "lowball" pretty much describes Rove, the GOP, and Bush's entire life history.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:41 AM
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20. DrBB you have been saying this for awhile
I know they used it against McCain--and now I agree you were right about them using it against Clark. I have many issues with Clark--but the "he is insane" attack is SO incorrect and such a lie that I did not think they would use it against him.

I will continue to upset Clark supporters on DU I am sure, but.....
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:28 PM
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40. I thought eight ball describes Shub's life (snort snort)
:shrug:
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AmericanDem Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:18 AM
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11. This will be my 3rd time calling his office.
Liberman is repuke for sure. Contact his office and tell them how things are.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:30 AM
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12. Imagine for a minute if the roles were reversed
Let's say Clark was being interview and the interviewer said,
"Lieberman is a ( whatever). Clark would say something like this:
"Hold on a minute, Joe is a great guy, I just happen to disagree with him and I think I would make a better candidate"

That's because Clark has class and Joe is a creep.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:37 AM
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13. One good thing about Lieberman
His bullshit has been the best uniter of the divisiveness on this board.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:40 AM
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19. No kidding...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:21 PM
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39. Very True!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:37 AM
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14. Thanks for the post
I know how Lieberman is but its good to see him show it and for people to know the real Joe (folly of "real" democrat as he claims).
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:37 AM
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16. Thanks for the post and for your fairness, yes I will admit
Clark is sometimes vague. With that said most politians are vague on purpose because they need wiggle room just in cast things change.

You, however are right, CLARK IS NOT A PSYCHOPATH. Like him, love him, disagree with him on policy but don't insult Clark. He is not a psychopath. Lieberman continues to sickens me there appears to be no low too low for Joe.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:38 AM
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17. Lieberman is mad...........
I think he thinks he should just "be" the nominee. After all, didn't we love him when he ran in 2000 with Gore? I think he thinks "To the Manor Born". That it should just "be" him. Why even consider anyone else? If these guys who are running would just open their eyes and try to understand why we are not flocking to them, then maybe they would see the problem. They had the chance to lead and wouldn't/didn't. Dean did. That's it for me. We were begging them to listen to us. They didn't. NOW they wanna be our President. Puhllleeeezzzz.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:39 AM
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18. Thanks for posting, Lieb is bottom of the barrel stuff...
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:44 AM
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21. Lieberman
just can't believe he's going to lose. I mean he was the chosen one so the rest of us were suppose to fall in line. Now like a young person without a prom date he's cranky.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:45 AM
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22. Imus is a pathetic fool, and his show is horrible
it's outrageous how the major political brass in this country continue to treat this guy with respect.

You should have been listening to Stern yesterday. Howard was pissed that Imus had the nerve to call Howard "a little bitch", because one of Howard's listeners was reporting on Imus at the gym and among other things that he could only benchpress the bar.

So Howard told Imus that he had to apologize, for among other things calling Howards ex-wife ugly and his girlfriend a bimbo, or else he was going to make Imus's life miserable because Howard had plenty of dirt that hadn't been exposed yet.

The thing is Imus has completly ripped off Stern over the years, and half of Imus's whole crew has tried to get jobs on the Stern show.
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BritishHuman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:48 AM
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23. I can't look at Lieberman
without being inexorably reminded of Senator Palpatine.



"At last we shall reveal ourselves to the DNC - at last we shall have our revenge..."
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:08 AM
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26. Is it any surprise that he wasn't welcomed at the last debate?
Might as well invite Zell Miller to support the Democratic party.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:10 AM
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27. Thank you for this post
The RW has been trying to circulate this smear on Clark for months, mainly through Murdoch's media. There were several comments made, without any substantiation, in articles in the NY Post and on Fox when Clark first announced. I thought they had dropped this when Clark began making personal appearances and it became abundantly apparent that he is a very sane man.

It's offensive that Lieberman would laugh when Clark was attacked in such a manner.

In the meantime, the NY Post observed today that Clark is "making a comeback" and has a chance "to emerge as Dean's chief rival." They buried the story on Page 28.

The Times offered this headline: "Clark Says He Has Plan for Iraq, but Will Not Offer Details." As a Clark supporter, I would argue that his vagueness reflects an unwillingness to make a commitment when he doesn't have all the intelligence about a situation. "I need to see all the facts," he said about Iraq.

I would rather have somebody I respect say he needs more information then go off half-cocked just for the sake of a sound bite.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:13 AM
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28. Lieberman and Imus?? - Two Kinds of Ugly
Leebs is still pissed about high school when guys like Clark lettered in all the sports and got all the pretty girls. He still has an inferiority complex and his campaign is mired in quicksand.

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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:23 AM
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29. call his NH office
I went to the Leiberman website and found the numbers for several campaign offices. The only one I got a human being at was N.H. - the number is 603-669-2004.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:28 AM
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30. Appreciate your support more than you know....
And, yes, you have been awfully rough on Clark but that's what primaries are for-to rough up our candidates, to expose their myriad weaknesses, see how well they perform under fire, and get them ready to face Satan next November.

I expect to continue to be pissed at you regularly until we settle on a nominee. Then, whether your choice or mine wins, I expect we'll find ourselves on the same team. Until then...

:thumbsup: and :toast:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:34 AM
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32. Thanks RoughSatori
That is so wrong...Thank you for letting us know and for writing to Lieberman. That's really good of you. :toast:
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:38 AM
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34. Goodbye Joe
we hardly knew ye.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:41 AM
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35. Lieberman is in the wrong party. (nt)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:42 AM
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36. I truly believe Joe hurt Gore
more than Nader did.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:37 AM
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33. Me too! n/t
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:05 AM
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38. I'd agree
There's a lot of people my age that I knew back then who wouldn't vote for Gore/Lieberman simply because of Joe's attacks on the entertainment industry. I hung out with an artistic liberal crowd back then and free speech was at the top of their list of issues.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:02 AM
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37. Clark is my second choice
And while I have some problems with Clark (that's why he's not my number one choice ;-) ), he's most definitely NOT a psychopath. I keep on thinking that Joe can't get any worse, but he keeps on surprising me.

People like to throw around Joe's voting record, but a politicians NON-Voting actions can be as important, if not more important, than their actual record. In Joe's case, he's far past the point in which his votes counterbalance his use of RW propaganda against other Democrats.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:33 AM
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31. Sorry Lieberman supporters
although I don't see too many here he needs to get out of the race. He has become shrill and has become a tool for the Repugs. It seems he is looking for a new position in the new * administration.
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