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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:42 AM
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Roy Black's Tactic to Defend Rush Limbaugh
EVERY right-wing media source has stressed that the prosecutor investigating Rush Limbaugh cannot be fair for 2 reasons:

1. The prosecutor is a Democrat
2. and is from New York.

The mantra of Roy Clark, reguritated by the media, is "Rush is being persecuted by a New York, Democrat prosecutor.

If this is the best Black can come up with, Rush must be unarguably guilty.
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NormanConquest Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:45 AM
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1. Hasn't Roy Black been hired by the Kennedys before?
What does that tell us, Rush? :eyes:
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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:46 AM
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3. Oh, that's not the half of it...
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 09:52 AM by Patriot_Spear
Back when the Kennedy's hired Black, here's what Rube Lamebrain had to say-

Rush: 'You know how you can tell when someone is guilty of a crime? When they hire Roy Black as their attorney...'
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:45 AM
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2. Oh, he's guilty, alright
The more Black remonstrates, the more I believe the allegations to be true.


Making namby-pamby objections about "NY Democrats" proves Dittohead Nation is a confederacy of wet-diaper crybabies.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:47 AM
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4. Heard some idiot say last night that he can't be a crimminal because...
...he is so rich. No shit.

Don

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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:48 AM
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5. That's true... if your a RebubliKKKan.
They're NEVER guilty.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:50 AM
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6. I saw his performance on the Today Show
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 10:06 AM by marshallplan
God, I could have done a better interview than the guy (Lester somebody) who did it.

When asked about doctor shopping for drugs, Black came back with "Who doesn't have more than one doctor?" - well, me, for instance.
Lester then said, but shopping for controlled substance narcotics from several different doctors is a federal crime, Black had the nerve to make the case that one of the doctors had been an ear specialist, and that Limbaugh hadn't gone to a doctor to have painful ear implant surgery just for the purpose of getting narcotics afterward.

WTF. He lost his frickin' hearing because of the narcotics - is what Lester should have shot back with, but, no. I wasn't doing the interview, he was. And Black got away with this shit.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:55 AM
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7. That wouldn't have been a good answer
I mean in all fairness, you can't ask that particular question if you are interviewing a person. In a debate format perhaps, but not in an interview. (Particularly if you want to go on being an interviewer.)

The best way to interview a person you don't agree with is to give them plenty of rope to hang themselves with, let them talk as long as they want, while subtly directing them towards the more questionable parts of their argument. Sounds like this interviewer did that, as, from your account, he comes off as kind of ridiculous.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:01 AM
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10. Ridiculous to us, who know more of the story than the Limbots
but I would argue the majority of the population don't know much at all about what Limbaugh actually did.
I would bet that Katie Couric would have got right back at hima nd challenged him on this. (Our own jolly little Eva Braun, in Coulter's demented world).
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:55 AM
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8. Is Roy whoring again?
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 09:58 AM by LeahMira
The mantra of Roy Clark, reguritated by the media, is "Rush is being persecuted by a New York, Democrat prosecutor.

And Roy Black (I think... or is it Clark) wouldn't be able to put aside his personal political leanings etc. in order to give his client the best defense possible? Give me a break!

On morning TV today, though, he was saying that millions of Americans become addicted to prescription drugs, that Rush admitted his addiction, dealt with it in rehab, and if it weren't for Rush's notoriety there would be no big deal.

Sorry, Roy, but Rush made the conscious choice to get drugs illegally. Were it not for his income, he would not have been able to do that. The rest of those millions of folks who become addicted to prescription drugs don't have the money or the connections to be able to do that. They have to sweat it out.

And I don't hear Rush talking about the long waiting lists of people who want to get into drug rehab and just can't because there's no room. Maybe he has, but I haven't heard it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 09:57 AM
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9. It is Roy "Black" n/t
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:13 AM
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17. I'm a-pickin'
And I'm a-grinnin'!
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:05 AM
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12. Freeper scum---anybody alert to this clod yet?
Zot his ass.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:05 AM
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13. Wrote this in the lounge but I can't resist a repeat
there once was a poster named lagg
who spouted and blustered and bragged
but the tombstone is near
and we never fear
for lagg is about to get fragged

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:06 AM
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14. Are you defending Rush by some fucking chance here? n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:06 AM
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15. I always thought I liked Roy Black -
Now I know why I don't!

I'm afraid that Rush Limbaugh will beat this charge!
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:10 AM
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16. Why is it that Conservatives always Cry....
"if you have nothing to hide let them look"

Rush was happy with the 8 year white water investigation...

but now....

looking at him.....

it's a "witch hunt"

I hope he drowns.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:33 AM
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22. I was thinking the same thing this morning
The phrases "out of control prosecuter", "fishing expedition" - now where have I heard this before. This is merely karma catching up to Rush.

He can thank his buddy Jeb Bush for being in this much trouble. I was listening to Ron Kuby this morning who said as a result of more OD's in FLA coming from legal drugs than illegal last year (was very surprised at that), the FLA legislature passed a law making doctor shopping a felony and Bush happily signed the law.

Kuby also stated that he felt Black and the prosecutors were trying to work out a plea agreement and the fact they are raiding his medical records seemed to indicate those talks are not going well.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:15 AM
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18. Tranlsation
He's being investigated by a jew.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:17 AM
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19. My thought exactly eom
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:19 AM
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20. Bingo!
Mr. Tolerance, himself.
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Midwest_Doc Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:23 AM
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21. I hadn't looked at it that way ...
... but you are absolutely right.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:44 AM
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23. question
I like accuracy and I have yet to see that "mantra" in the media. I've read where Black called it a "fishing expedition", but that's all. Could you provide links?

I have a neighbor who had several back operations, was prescribed oxycotin, and got hooked, so because of my experience of being a "good neighbor" (as we all should be) and helping out him and his wife, I am somewhat sympathetic to understanding just how much this particular drug can grab someone and not let go. He had a similar situation where he started buying it on the black market because it was taking more and more medicine to give him the same pain relief. He eventually got caught and went to rehab. The DA saw that he had no priors, was a model citizen, that he was acquiring medicine because of his pain, and that he had sought help for his addiction, and didn't even press charges. To me, that was the right thing to do. He would have never have even taken the drug if not for his back problems. My guess is that you'll see the same thing with Rush.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:05 AM
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25. Regardless of whether Limbaugh was...
"Dr. Shopping", that would not explain away the alleged purchase of thousands, (tens of thousands), of pills he alledgedly got from other than legitimate prescription processes. Sending your housekeeper out to pick up "prescription" meds in a plastic bag at odd hours of the night, and place them in a cigar box, is NOT the ususal way a pharmacy works.

Responsible pharmacists keep records, and will call MD's if there are discrepencies, or the quantities of a specific medication is in question, (say the #20 was initially on the Rx, but someone added an extra '0', making it #200).

Besides, the paper trail for narcotics is absurdly long. The only way that quantity could be justified, is if the expiration dates were past, and they were reported as destroyed. Red Flags would have shot up all over South FL for the quantities of Oxycontin Liombaugh was allegedly purchasing. Pain Clinics have tougher times getting quantities like that, and they use the stuff all the time. Pharamcies would have a hard time justifying quantities like that, without someone looking into it.

My take is: Limbaugh should be charged with a minimum of having received Rx meds without a prescription, with the intent to use them for other than legally prescribed use. Let the courts settle it. If there are discrepencies, (if he is found guilty), with sentencing...defense atty's across the nation would have a field day applying for new sentencing and clemency hearings for their clients!

:evilgrin:
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 11:13 AM
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26. As I said on the other Limbaugh thread, there's a thing called
a "pre-indictment plea." This is what will happen to Rush. He will plead to some lesser offense BEFORE they indict him on something bigger. The fat fuck makes me sick.

I've employed this tactic on some of my cases. When you know your guy is going down for something, you negotiate with the prosecutor to see if he will let you plead to some offense instead of bringing up an indictment.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 10:45 AM
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24. Yes but
the prosecuter who sticks his fork in this brain dead pos is going to vaulted on to bigger things, this would have to be seen as quite a prize.

One that would be very hard to pass up, and there are a number of other charges, just what was the pigboy doing with all the drugs anyway, I find it very dificult to believe he scored them for his personal use.

I think he was dealing them out, and I would be taking a very hard look at anybody this maggot called friend.
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