Which makes you madder, putting Reagan on a coin, or taking FDR off?

Personally, I'm more annoyed at the idea of removing the greates president, FDR, from the dime than I am at putting Reagan on.

I know Reagan (and Bush sr.) was responsible for a lot of crime and was a lousy president, but he's a major hero to the wingnuts...

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Especially since FDR had polio and he was put on the dime in the first place to honor his support of the March of Dimes. This GOP move to steal our dime should be fought very, very hard. But it goes beyond Democrats. Anybody old enough to remember polio and the March of Dimes would be horrified.

It makes perfect sense though, and it makes me even angrier to think that they want to remove FDR.

(and the March of Dimes is still around and kicking, btw- you don't have to be "old" to remember them!)

I suspect that they want to avoid appearing political, but it should be an insult to them to even suggest removing FDR from the dime. The effort that FDR gave in the fight against polio, and the continuing good that the March of Dimes does to this day, should transcend politics.

that the raygun dime is really counterfeit. Insist on the FDR dimes when getting change.

Why? Well ...

There was once a time when Americans banded together to make the world better and safer. Millions of ordinary citizens sent dimes to the White House -- this fund paid for the research that developed the vaccines that are still being used today. The UN says we're on the verge of eradicating polio! They say it could happen this decade. This is the kind of thing that gave America such a shining reputation for technological advances, AND philanthropy. It's part of a heritage all Americans should justifiably be proud of.

But it's part of the "old America", where Republicans and Democrats worked to help everybody -- and the government could help motivate private charities for something other than Bible-thumping and making money.

The White House admits that they took the "send a dollar for Afghan children" idea right from FDR.

It's a sad day when the party of Lincoln would get hysterical about any slightly critical assessment of, say, Ronald Reagan (witness the CBS movie) -- while at the same time denying that any Democrat would ever do anything helpful and inspiring. Now I see why my uncle, a longtime Republican, would rather vote for Pat Buchanan than the Bush administration.

Really, I don't begrudge them wanting to put Reagan's image on a coin. But being so dismissive of FDR ... there are plenty of Democrats who admire Lincoln, TR, and Eisenhower, after all.

They are sending a message by doing this, and it's a chilling one. Putting Reagan on? Heck, they want to name everything for Reagan. That's not new. Trying to erase FDR from our collective memory - that's what this is all about. Why not the quarter (Washington too sacrosanct). Why not the penny (same for Lincoln, also GOP). Why FDR? If he was around now, he would kick the bastards rhetorically. Are you listening, Tom Daschle?

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is enough to make me violently ill. Reagan happenned to be sitting (mindlessly) in the White House when the USSR imploded upon itself, so he's credited with "winning the cold war"

Yeah, right :eyes:

when the USSR went belly up in 1991.

Every president since Truman is responsible for ending the cold war. Hannity and Rush give credit to Raygun. There has been a concerted effort to discredit FDR by swine. Pig fuckers!

I see all the threads about this, but isn't just a RW fantasy at this point? You all make it sound like a foregine conclusion.

And btw, Lincoln was the greatest president.

GOP wants to kick FDR off the dime

A group of Republican congressmen is campaigning to replace Franklin Delano Roosevelt's image on the dime with that of Ronald Reagan.

The Los Angeles Daily News said Rep. Mark Souder, R-Ind., introduced the legislation to replace the Democratic architect of the New Deal from all future 10-cent coins.

About 80 lawmakers, all Republicans, have signed as co-sponsors of the Ronald Reagan Dime Act.

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I burned a lot of posts raging about Reagan yesterday. Diapered dimbulb dickwad, for all time.

Let 'em do what they want. I sure as hell won't use dimes anymore.

Jesus fucking christ, we're $7 trillion in debt and we're going to be this fucking frivolous?

PARTY OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY?!?!?!

Let them all be cremated alive for all I care anymore. They're all nuts.

But if I had to choose, I think taking FDR off gets to me more. Reagan might be okay on a wooden nickel. That's about it.

Reagan is a recent prez, it's like trying to put on Clinton, I wouldn't want that either. This is nothing but a political move to help the GOP sell itself. They better not do it...

To me, it reeks of more revisionism.

Maybe _slightly_ more annoyed at putting Ray-gun on.

How can they put his likeness on a coin if he's still sucking air?

its just been tradition, youd think the cons would want to preserve traditional things.

They have no concept of manners or tradition. They just want that evil man's ugly face on the money, NOW!

Removing FDR's face wouldn't bother me much, as long as they went back to the beautiful old Mercury head or put a personified concept like "liberty" on. I dislike having politicians of any variety on the money, and think our ideals belong there, not men.

If they put Reagans horrible likeness on the money (unless it's a stamp on every bounced check), I'll be asking for alternatives when I get change.

We have to wait--what 5 years after they die?-- to put someone on a stamp but Reagan can be on a dime while still alive?

Shouldn't it be those in the future who judge the greatness of a President to determine if he deserves this honor? In hindsight, we can say great things about FDR. Reagan's history is too "new" to do this.

FDR was put on the dime 1946

JFK on the half dollar in 1964

I know its insulting to mention these men in the same breath as Reagan, but we didnt wait very long to put both of these men on coins after they have died.

the penny. Indicative of the trickle down economic policies he's known for.
Then in a year, go ahead and take the penny out of circulation since the fed. is contemplating that anyway...

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If they must have his image plastered on a coin let it be on a two or 5 dollar coin. That way us common folk will never have to see it. Besides a $5 piece would nver circulate. But leave the FDR dime alone. FDR has two natural claims to the dime--his work with the March of Dimes to eradicate Polio and the Depression era song: "Once I ran a railroad...Brother, can you spare a dime?" Can you spare a dime was the phrase that symbolized the tragedy of the Great Depression and FDR lead the nation through it

isn't this something we should get to vote on???

tell me again why Reagan is considered a good president???

Next thing you know they will want Nixon on the 3$ bill

You know what I'd like to see? A $25 bill.

It would take four of them to get to $100--meaning less bulk in your cash drawer, less shipping weight and quicker counting cycles. (Important to people who handle a very large amount of money--stores, banks, armored car companies.) It would save paper too. And when I go to the store to buy something that's $19.95, I need two more dollars to make the sales tax (yes, I do get change from my $22). But the same transaction with a $25 would require only one bill.

They could handle it by coloring it blue or red and phasing out the $20.

And they could put Bankrupting Ronnie on the $25.

What are the odds you think? If they do, I believe it could blow up in their faces, and make them into a laughing stock...

I remember the furor in 1964 when they took Franklin off the half dollar, to put JFK on. But it SEEMS like Congress voted on it. Otherwise, the dirctor of the Mint would do it.

But, then again, how many pink tutu Dems would vote for this???? A shitload, no doubt!!!

as per the Law of 1890, which required that a coin's design be current for at least 25 production years and could be changed by the Director of the Mint after that. In the case of the switch from Franklin to Kennedy, the Franklin design had been current for a mere 16 production years (1948-1963), so it took an act of Congress to change the design.

Someone needs to find the dirt on that little troll, Grover Nutquist.. He has made it his life's work..to get EVERYTHING named after Reagan..

bastards. :grr:

I wouldn't be so disgusted if we were removing a statue of Columbia or an eagle or something.

but it still won't change the fact that he was a shitty president and I believe that history will bear that out.

The only place I want to see that bastard's ugly mug is in hell.

they can put Reagan's face on that.

FDR did stand for a lot and Reagon was just sort of a Mid-range guy who the GOP would dearly like to be great. But calling him great does not make him that way and FDR has his greatness all set. It is hard to place the new GOP. I almost think the Right wing is its oun party and has lost the Grand Old Party.Times are really changing. Maybe Weber and Durkhiem were right.

"The Reagan Legacy Project wants to put Reagan's head on the dime. Photoshop some other Reagan Legacy Project ideas"
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=739457

and to replace him with that stupid man....ick...

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While FDR helped save the world.

Reagan isn't fit to wipe FDR's ass, IMO.

The final insult to the movement to dismantle the new deal. Pisses me off royally.

Reagan's worth would be well balanced by a halfpenny.

That's what taking FDR off of a coin does. Puts FDR and his entire Presidency in the dust bin and replaces his policies with Reagan's policies. It's psychological and ought to be stopped.

Not to praise Reagan but to purge New Dealism from the govt. The bastids!

If Raygun needs to be on a coin, I'd suggest the "plugged nickel" (assuming no one else has suggested this).

Better yet, a farthling, 1/4 penny

I do think that FDR was one of our better presidents. He created the New Deal after all.

To replace him with a pig who started trying to destroy the New Deal is a disgrace. Reagan's supply side economics was a further disaster on the poor than some of the other damage done to the poor.

Reagan escelated the war on drugs. He put in policies that would target people that happened to be black most of time. He really escelated a war on poor and black people. It was not drugs. So many people would start going to prison, that they would have to let violent criminals out for people who were involved with drugs. That would even go for people who simply posessed the drugs.

He helped to escelate the war on drugs by bringing it to other countries. He also escelated the cold war in other countries. This stuff was violent and genocidal in some countries. It also was supportive of dictatorships who would help us fight the cold war.

The bastard would help Saddam Hussein out in the Iran/Iraq war by helping Iraq get weapons. He knew good and well that Iraq was using them to gas people too. The administration condemned it openly, while still helping Iraq out.

Why does the United States want to make a hero out of a mass murderer? At least Germany learned their lesson. We never do.

How fucking DARE they remove Franklin Delano Roosevelt's image from the dime!! This yet another chapter of the repigs master plan to strike the name of Democratic presidents from memorials, infrastructure and now coinage!!!

I mentioned a while back how offended I was that the Navy named its last two aircraft carriers after two mediocre presidents while naming a mere destroyer after BOTH FDR and Eleanor. Franklin and Eleanor have done more for this country than every living repig presdient COMBINED (that includes Ford as well as that fucking criminal that presently occupies the WH), yet they continue to be insulted by these revisonist neocon pseudo-historians. Fuck them!


Long live the spirit of the New Deal!!! Long live the spirit of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt!!!!

He was a bad ass president who kicked the Nazi's ass he deserves to be on our coinage.

I read on a post here that they should put him on the half dollar, I disagree I dont think we should take Kennedy off. Maybe we should get the Regan lovers to put him on the dollar or something so they wont mess with the rest of the coins.

This makes me furious. Why can't they put him on the penny,or the quarter,if they must do this? Lincoln and Washington are already on currency. FDR is specifically tied to the dime,and no one but he belongs on it. I hope people aren't going to put up with this...I don't even think Ray-gun would like it...FDR was a big hero of his,in his younger days.