The Democrats are Scared- A Letter to the DNC

(How the behavior of the Democratic party could prevent Howard Dean from winning the general election, thus reinstating a regime that should make us all afraid…very afraid.)

"The Democrats are scared." So says a political analyst on George Stephanopolis' Sunday morning show after heralding Howard Dean's accomplishments of the past week. Well, you know what, you should be scared. It's going to be extremely difficult for you to win this election since no one, with the exception of Dr. Dean himself, seems to have a backbone.

What’s really scary and irresponsible is that you’re accusing him of political views that aren’t even accurate…that could seriously harm Dean’s chances of getting elected. In my opinion, if you’re going to go after a candidate, you should at least do your homework.

Yes, Karl Rove is scary. He's famous for dirty, no, disgusting political tricks, which have done great damage to the American electoral process. Everybody knows this. But instead of going after Herr Rove for his highly unethical and probably illegal election high jinks, you're tearing down your own candidate.

much more...

http://www.opednews.com/burgwin_12031_scared.htm

This paragraph really stood out:

'Here's a chilling quote from investigative journalist Wayne Madsen in an article written for CounterPunch Magazine, in Nov. 2002. "German opposition figures in the mid-1930s often lamented the fact that they could have stopped the rise of the Nazis if only they had been more united in a common front when they had a chance. However, they fell prey to the media manipulation of Goebbels and fought among themselves more than they did against the menace from the far right." Sound familiar?'

throwing our asses back to Mondale and 1972....

d'oh! :silly:

like so called "tax hikes." And looking at this board, thy have good reason to be-

"Ms. Burgwin has been writing letters for over 10 years. Her letters have appeared in Newsweek, Time, New York Magazine, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Tribune Review as well as several online Op Ed sites. She has had the pleasure of meeting and working with Howard Dean while also being involved in gay rights, women’s issues and the environment. She lives in Pittsburgh with her family. "

they will rally to the cause.

This talk of fighting is stupid. We have to decide who the Democratic nominee will be and then we will vote for him. If a nuclear winter leaves only Bozo the Clown on the ticket against Nazi Bu$h, I will be voting for Bozo the Clown.

No words will change my mind. Bu$h is not a defender of the Constitution as an oath would imply. He is the shredder of it. Fuck Bu$h and his media. Give me a Democrat and let's vote.

$4.20 for Dennis

than the men who currently run our party. We need more like her, and of course, Howard Dean.... (not a woman, but someone with backbone).

Dean shows up at draft board with a note from his orthopedist and an X-ray and ... POOF! He's healed. No Vietnam and he can spend the winter skiing in Vale. A miracle, indeed! Instant backbone. Riiiight.

Surprise us. Come up with something of relevent substance.

No, never mind. I don't want you hurting your back.

Make me laugh. I'm against Dean because I don't want four more years of Bush. So, I'm willing to stick my neck out here, insulting my friends on DU who support Dean, because I see Dean for what he is — a loser in the mold of Bush-lite, "all hat and no cattle." While his baggage may not be apparent to them or to you, it will be readily visible in the general election. We have candidates who can send the little turd back to Crawford. Dean isn't one of them.

is everyone who avoided the draft during vietnam a coward in your estimation, or just Dean because you don't like him.

The President might have to order men and women to their deaths. When someone asked Dean to put on a uniform, he found other priorities — just like George W Bush, Richard Cheney, Tom DeLay and the rest of the chickenhawks. To be a true leader, the commander-in-chief must be a person who was willing to do whatever he must ask others to do.

Unlike Smirk.

And unlike Kerry.

In fact, Kerry has worked to stop wars, hasn't he?

Dean? He dodged the draft. Then, he went skiing.

when we all know it was folly.

Could it have been (gasp) a calculated move by an ambitious young politician?

Kerry's tried to play every side of the fence his entire life.

Oh, I'm a heroic soldier.

Oh, I'm a heroic demonstrator against the war.

Oh, I'm heroically supporting our president against that evil Saddam.

Oh, I didn't really mean for him to do exactly THAT. That's not what I meant at ALL.

I think anyone who volunteered for Vietnam just wasn't real bright. Either that or they were dirt poor and needed a job, or else they were horribly horribly uninformed. And if they were stupid enough to not GET informed, well, you know .....

So you are saying he didn't do anything wrong, yet it disqualifies him from being president. That doesn't make sense to me.

Can you explain further. It would seem that either what he and everyone else who avoided Vietnam did was wrong, or it wasn't. If it wasn't, it shouldn't be an issue.

The President is required to lead the military. As the commander-in-chief, he will likely be called to send men and women to their deaths. I don't want a President who was unwilling to assume that call to service, and possible need for self-sacrifice, when asked by their country.

War is ridiculous, but sometimes is necessary for the preservation of our country. Draft dodgers, conscientious objectors, self-preservationists are human beings and deserve respect as such. They are good people and value the lives of other people, often as much as their own. And I am proud to say I have many, many friends who are among them. I wouldn't want them to be the ones to order my nation's people to war. They weren't willing to go themselves, when needed.

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Date: December 3, 2003

Clark Campaign Response to Senator Kerry's Fondness for James Baker
Clark Campaign Communications Director Matt Bennett issued the following statement in response to Senator Kerry's comments today at the Council on Foreign Relations:

"Senator Kerry's suggestion that he might use Bush family consigliere James Baker as a special envoy to the Middle East is offensive. Baker, who was the driving force behind George W. Bush's theft of the 2000 election in the Florida recount, helped to disenfranchise thousands of voters.

We liked it better when Senator Kerry was calling Baker's Florida operation 'thuggism.' If Kerry wants a former Secretary of State who headed a recount effort in Florida, let's stay away from political thugs and go with Warren Christopher."
http://www.clark04.com/press/release/103/

There was a much stronger statement about Kerry today on Clark's site. It had to do with .. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml

It's been removed. This one will probably go down the memory hole too. Enjoy it while you can.

I've posted dozens of times on Baker's links to Nixon and the JFK assassination. Don't give me any holier-than-thou crap.

He worked in their administrations. I've got nothing against Wes Clark and think this is a great little jab, but he thinks highly of them as well. If he thought James Baker could solve the I/P situation, there's no doubt in my mind he'd send him over if Baker would go. Anybody would be an idiot to let emotional partisanship to get in the way of peace.

I'm about Dr. Dean's age. I lived through that time. My lottery number was fucking 15. It was 1972 and I was about to graduate from college and lose my deferment.

People were rioting in the streets, burning down buildings, and college kids were being shot by the national guard on campuses.

EVERYONE knew there was no possible way in the world that we would ever get out of Vietnam unless we declared "victory" and just left. EVERYONE knew it was a criminal war that would accomplish absolutely nothing and that it was a playground for the military's new war toys.

55,000 americans were killed there. 300,000 were maimed. 3 Fucking Million Asians were killed.

Nobody but morons were looking to go there. As soon as they did, they came back "educated" and immediately took to the streets protesting the war.

I escaped with a medical deferment. Anyone with half a brain and any sense of morality did the same thing. If we hadn't done that we would STILL be there losing that war.

You need to talk about something you have a clue about.

Right up front. Right out of the gate. It took Dean months to finally say he was hoping to get a deferment. And only after Matthews dang near beat it out of him.

I don't care what anybody did or didn't do during Vietnam. I do care whether they're honest about it TODAY.

Several members of my family served in Vietnam. Two were wounded severely. Worse, several of my friends lost family members in Vietnam.

While I did not have to register for the draft, I was enrolled from 1970-72 in an honor military academy — a little Junior ROTC, good for the soul. And there I met several cadets whose older brothers were in uniform. One lost a brother in Vietnam. He said life was never the same for his family. His dad died soon after, then his mom. He graduated an orphan. All because of fucking Vietnam.

Let me tell you something: EVERYBODY there at military school was against that fucking war. Tell you something else: EVERYBODY there knew what the fucking BFEE was about, although we didn't give it that name. You also should know, I haven't stopped talking, writing, and acting in accordance with this understanding since then, in public, private, business, or politics. So, please, don't give me the sanctimonious bullshit about not knowing what I'm talking about.

One more thing: I don't have a problem with you or draft dodging. I have a problem with it when the draft dodger is running for President of the United States. You see, I don't want some chickenshit to send my son, daughters, nieces or nephews, or yours for that matter, into a situation he or she would avoid for self-preservation. We already have a guy in office who can claim that.

"Scary? Yes, it's scary as hell, but like children we want our parents to act as though they're not afraid so that we won't be. But instead we are faced with a party who is frozen with fear and negating the work of those who are trying and succeeding in giving our besieged nation and its grief stricken citizens hope. Come on team. We can do this. We must do this. So many of us are deeply convinced that we are at a crossroads in our country’s history no less important than the American Revolution and people like Howard Dean are writing pamphlets called “Common Sense” and quoting men like Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, FDR and JFK."

If anything good has come out of this dark, dark period in our country’s history, it’s that we are united. We are united in a common purpose and that purpose is to rid our beautiful country of men who would pillage it for personal gain; decimate our land and our exquisite waterways; trample on the sacred rights our founders fought and died for; all the while claiming to have been chosen to God’s will as they blithely murder thousands of innocent people. These men must be defeated and Howard Dean is the man for the job. Now let’s get to work.

Excellent article!

So many bush weaknesses so few people speeking about them. Lets pick apart the one that is shall we?

Got anything else?

The only thing I'M scared of is the rest of the Democrats wussing out and leaving Dean holding his dick in his hand.

THAT'S what we need to be afraid of.

Democrats are scared that Dean will win the nomination only to lose the general election. I'm scared too, but the way!

But he's not smart.

This whole pretend republican movement is sneaky but not smart.

Remember that.