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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 10:57 AM
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An explanation of Dean's $50,000 to the Florida Dems. Mods please allow.
I am posting this separately as it has been mentioned on many threads. Here is the explanation from the Orlando Sentinel.
I think other papers have it also. I will do a check on it.
Candidates Pony Up in Cash

SNIP..."Candidates pony up cash

The Florida party offered each candidate "packages" at its convention. The most expensive -- $25,000 -- secured a hotel suite for receptions, preferential seating for candidate-sponsored delegates and campaign ads on DVDs the party will send to delegates after the show.

Dean alone donated $50,000, according to party chairman Scott Maddox. Dean also arrives with a new, high-profile supporter: Gwen Graham Logan, daughter of Florida's Graham.


"The truth is, not a single vote has been cast yet, so you never know," Logan said of the winter primaries. "Florida is an important primary state. . . . If we are fortunate enough to be the nominee, Florida is going to again be the pivotal state in the nation."END SNIP

Registration required at Sentinel. I see nothing wrong with the party accepting his money. If others did it they would accept it as well. Trust me they are in dire need, not like the Republicans.

I am sure someone will find something wrong with this. So be it.


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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:03 AM
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1. There is nothing wrong with the donation, but he can't buy......
Southern and swing state support. If he want's that he'll have to modifiy his Middle Class Tax Stance.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:08 AM
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2. Do you ever let up on that?
I mean seriously... drop the meme already or at least get a little more selective where you post it.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:23 AM
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7. Yeah, I'll drop it as soon as Dean faces up to the issue and.....
properly addresses it.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:37 AM
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15. Yeah, Dean wants the same tax structure
as Clinton, and he wasn't very popular in the South, was he? :eyes:
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:28 AM
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9. Is that because
with his current policy he's doing so badly in the south?

I could have sworn he's among the frontrunners in SC anf FL.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:37 AM
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16. Oh, for Heaven's sakes! Dean is talking about Clintonomics.
One has to scuttle the entire Bush tax package, "Borrow and Spend," in order to return to the Clinton era of balanced budgets and surplus which gave us nearly 8 years of JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.

I'll take Clintonomics over Bushanomics any day!

PS: I am disappointed that some posters have bought the Bush spin that this is a tax increase. Dean is taking the credit card away from the government, and making us pay as we go, instead of dumping all of this debt on our children and grandchildren.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:10 AM
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3. thanks for the explanation
:) and the link.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:10 AM
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4. It would be unfair to Dean, unless you take a 50 state canvas
of what each candidate spent in every state. Obviously, the candidates will spend money in each state according to their chances of winning that state.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:20 AM
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5. kick
n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:20 AM
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6. State party is trying to play hardball like the GOP. Takes money to do it
No matter what your opinion of Dean, you must admit Maddox is playing to win. Dean has the money, Dean donates. I see nothing wrong with that. The others had the same right to do it and get the benefits from it.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/7412592.htm
SNIP..."All nine Democratic presidential candidates are hoping to captivate thousands of Florida Democrats at the party's state convention this weekend, but former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean has ensured himself the starring role.

It has little to do with his standing in the state's polls or his Florida fan base and everything to do with his fat campaign war chest.

For a $50,000 contribution to the state party, Dean and his supporters will be allowed to blanket the Coronado Springs Resort at Walt Disney World with receptions, rallies, information tables, even activist training seminars.


It's a deal that has prompted grumbling from some of his rivals, who have not enjoyed Dean's fundraising success and declined to pony up the cash requested by state Democratic Party Chairman Scott ..."

I also found an article that Maddox wanted $50,000 from each candidate to enter the straw poll. That is why it was voted down. Dean agreed, the others didn't.





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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:25 AM
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8. that's what the other candidates missed out on
*shakes head*
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:29 AM
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10. I don't know who's been complaining
(I probably have them on Ignore) but whoever it is has never been to a convention. This is SOP. Candidates, caucuses, and various interest groups host Hospitality Suites where you hobnob with your fellow Democrats, various party potentates and usually meet a candidate or 3. The suites basically serve as a venue in which to do this and are catered with a no-host bar. Really guys, this is nothing out of the ordinary.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:30 AM
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11. No one wants to read this thread that explains it.
Everyone wants to jump on the other one. Can't understand it.
:shrug:



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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:34 AM
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13. Maybe if you posted it on the thread everyone is reading,
they'd see it.

:)

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:39 AM
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18. Already did
And requested that the other thread that is misinformation be locked.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:33 AM
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12. Thanks for posting this!
Mighty kick for information!

:kick:
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:36 AM
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14. madfloridian
In the future, please do not post "mods please allow" in your thread. Thanks.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:42 AM
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19. I will not do that in the future.
nt
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:38 AM
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17. :kick:
:kick:
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-03 11:53 AM
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20. and another kick
n/t
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