Dennis Kucinich and Howard Dean to appear on C-span Forum

right now at 8:30PM EST!!! Use this thread to discuss.

Sorry, I edited this since Clark isn't going to attend. Sorry, Clark supporters. :hi:

that these three are the only ones worth watching. Maybe Kerry too.

Thanks for this.

:hi:

can't exactly hear what he's saying though. I see three chairs up there, so it'll be Clark, Kucinich, and Dean.

no Clark?

where is Clark? :(

he must be there. I'm sure he is.

at 7pm, I think.

Better check it.

I was thinking of Dean house parties on Monday, and that came out through my fingers instead, ha. Thanks for letting me know anyway. :hi:

What kind of forum? Is it Q & A? A Debate? Do you know? :shrug:

since gephardt, edwards, and kerry already had q&a

2004 VOTE
Dem. Candidates Meet in Florida
At the Florida Democratic Party State Convention, the presidential candidates participate in Q&A forums lasting most of the day, from 9am-10pm ET.

Edit: Wait..that didn't really give as much info as I originally thought it did..nevermind..lol..

so......I'm still confused. The announcer said Kucinich and Dean (didn't say Clark) but I see three chairs on stage. What's up?

He is going on about how great the Florida democratic party is...

mmm, must be be a delay or something with the forum program. A short while ago, I was seeing the room full of delegates and it was that forum with three chairs on stage.

Eat faster you dems!

;-) Looks like the forum is back on!

n/t

I guess 3rd chair is for an interviewer or something.

where is Clark?

I think he might be on later?

Kucinich just shook Dean's hand----interesting to see what they'll talk about!


ooops, wrong post to reply to.

They said earlier he would be on.

he might on later.

Lieberman & Sharpton will be addressing the convention tomorrow and I'd imagine they'll be given the chance to take questions at that point.

I didn't know about this one but who knows.

The mod was obviously pissed, and unless there's
a damn good excuse I don't blame him.
If Clark lost his voice that'd be an excuse, but I'd
think that in that case the Mod would have been informed
and told us.

Bad move General.

Great showings by Dean and Kunicich, and no show for Clark.

Proud they're my first and second choices! :bounce:

Dean keeps mentioning this date. Can't wait till we get our nominee into the White House. :)

Guess what I want?

No matter who becomes pres. Viva la liberation!

I'm not sure the crowd bought that one. LOL! Hell, I don't think I buy it either. It was a good try though!

Why would he lie?

Good try tho!

At the end of the day, what matters is whether or not the crowd will buy it.

so like a lot of parents, they find a song that they like through listening to their teenagers' music.

I find my music through my parents...they won't find anything they haven't heard by listening to mine :D

My father is going on 50 yet he has been known to steal my little brother's CDs every now and then.

Focus on the issues :). I could care less what Dean listens to as long as it isnt that damn white supermacist label I have heard about.

:-)

We remembered what Dean said and chuckled. He had on a bright red suit. He was really funny, and he did the "rap news."

I like that! Does anyone know where the other candidates stand on that issue?

Still the K man has the best plan on that, I like the idea honestly, like universal post K-12 education will make people smarter imo, same with his pre K-12 plan. I think it will make the public smarter and better educated.

I know John Edwards has a plan for a free first year if you're willing to work/do community service 10 hours a week.

I don't know about any of the other candidates' plans..hoping someone will chime in here..

I was just pointing to Kathleen that I remembered Edwards' plan.

I'm impressed!

Dean is going to be our next president. I'm feeling it now.

omg, Dean just talked about the clash of civilizations. omg! huge cheer!!!!!

That sure woke up the crowd!

I think Clark also mentioned Clinton or was it Kerry?

But Dean said it first months ago.

;-)

Just to be clear.

"Kerry, who recently suggested a high-profile special envoy for the region on the level of former Presidents Bush or Clinton or former Sen. George Mitchell, said the United States must be prepared to take some risks to make peace."

http://www.random-abstract.com/archives-gm/00000441.html

Dennis is far more knowledgeable and eloquent then Dean. He knows the ins and outs on policy issues unlike Dean, who tends to fumble and dance around.

I was most impressed with Kerry, Kucinich, and Gephardt today.

Dean and Clark are the usual bust. We need a Democrat in office, not a Republicat.

"I don't know why they can't manage money, maybe it's because they never had to earn it."

That woman flirting with Kucinich..

heat-seeking missile.

We can all be proud of them and their performance tonight. There is no shallowness here!

Both did wonderful and give us on the left hope.

Really impressive.

The woman says she is a Jewish ham and he says he in known to be Kosher. Wow. Funny and classy.

I also notice that he seems upset much of tonight. I wonder what's going on.

:shrug:

And, as we saw, no Clark.

That's disappointing. I like Clark.

Maybe that's it. It's not listed on his website.

wonder why he didn't participate?

which not all the candidates did

and I do think it is wrong to not answer questions. But, Clark sounded like he was losing his voice again. When I listened to his speech, his tone sounded off. In the first days of the campaign, he had the same problem. I think he has the Clinton problem. He needs to rest his voice. That's my wild guess.

he might've had to catch an earlier plane than he had intended to because of the weather.

Not everybody did.

Kucinich though looked goofy when that woman came up and hit on him.

;-)

Then again he is 41 years older than me but he has been married twice, so I doubt thats the case. I think it could heh be like how I am, I act very shy around girls, dont ask me why, but I do.

it was funny tho :-D

. . . what a mistake. GO DENNIS!

TYY

;)

*hits fist on head*

I doubt Dean's left. More likely he's in a different part of the room. I think CSPAN only has one camera.

. . . and he never returned to that room. The camera would have shown him if he had.

TYY

love how they don't edit anything and stick around after things are over, alot of times the after stuff is fun to watch..

in 40 minutes right before he gave his Palestine opus.

that he said he had to make a flight in 40 minutes earlier in the segment. Trust me on this--Dean has made sure that he's met with people out and about. That's one thing he always seems to manage to do. Usually he plans on getting to events early so he can meet with supporters.

I know that because I had to help set up a Dean meeting with local voters earlier this year.

. . . I think 5 minutes shaking hands would have been a good investment. Was he catching a commercial flight or does his campaign have a private plane?

TYY

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TYY

Picky picky picky. That is just ridiculous.

He did seem to make a hurried exit..

Random thoughts:

The woman accusing Kucinich of taking money from gambling interests was an interesting exchange..hmm..she couldn't seem to remember her source though.

Kucinich speaking Spanish to people is pretty impressive.

He lived out in the southwest for a while in the late 70's and 80's. I wonder if he knows Croatian :), that would really be neat, hes like 2nd generation, he might know.

He is evidently fluent, at least it sounds so. Nothing like that rehearsed stuff that fumbles out of Bush*.

in 40 minutes. So actually he was late for his plane. Don't just assume he ran off.

in another room. The campaign paid for use of another ballroom for non-delegate volunteers to attend the convention see the speeches and meet with him.

He may have been heading over there.

He announced it during the Q&A.

the political editor of the St. Petersburg Times said all the candidates got very good receptions today but Dean was overwhelmingly the favorite… said "Dean lit the place on fire"

I saw directed toward him in the thread on his segment.

I'm getting more impressed with Dean; my disgust isn't targeted
at him. But I don't appreciate the media cramming him down
our throats, and this St. Pete guy was exhibit A.

not telling them how to react.

Then he went on to say soon the field would just be Dean
and a couple of others. Even if that seems apparent to him,
I think it was more than a supposedly impartial journalist should be
declaring.

maybe I was out of the room when that happened?

Then I rounded to the nearest 20 to be tidy (and for impact :)).
I added the "~" ~universal* approximation symbol to give me wiggle
room if confronted on my number.

Anyway, point being that they're broadcasting it over and over.

(I added "~" to "universal" for basically the same reason.)

have been working hard preparing for this convention. I think there are actually as many people volunteering for Dean in central Florida right now as I saw working for Al Gore on election day in 2000. The Dean camp had a very large delegation at the convention.

Central Florida has not been a very politically active place over the last 30 years.

The war and the election campaign has brought a level of activism to this area that I have never seen before.

Last October, during the build up to war in Iraq some 6 or 7 friends started meeting in a local coffee shop to organize action against the war. The protests started out very small but grew with each passing week to the point where there were several hundred committed activists and many many more who would attend from time to time.

The same phenomena seems to be going on with the Dean camp. The meetups have had to split because the size was too large for the venues. There are now 6 of them locally.

This is not typical central Florida politics. Bush has been a great uniter, he has united his opposition here in a way I have never observed before.

:toast:

No flame-baiting, just honest discussion about issues. I would be proud of either man as president, they both care for the American people.

Anybody know?

I thought Dean & Dennis both did fantastic tonight. Both seemed in command of their facts and wildly popular with the people.

DENNIS:yourock: DEAN:yourock:

Every candidate, including Kerry, has sounded terrific when they are allowed time to answer questions on complex issues and elaborate on their answers. A far cry from the ridiculous time constraints in the TV debates we have watched in which there is only enough time to land one punch, to get one sound bite.

I think the TV debates should be scrapped!