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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 01:58 PM
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Poll question: Degree of Bush-Hating here at DU.
So that's the repukes' paln for '04 - call us Bush haters? Funny after all the hate they heaped on Ole' Bill. Anyway, how would you decribe your sentiment toward Bush?

A recent time magazine article implied that the only reason angry dems hate the guy is his smirk, or his phony piety, or his cockiness.

Am I wrong in saying : "It's the lies, and the fake war, stupid!" ?
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:00 PM
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1. Answers #6, #7, AND #8
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 02:00 PM by DemXCGI
Pity you can't have multiple votes...so I voted "other"
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:23 PM
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21. You beat me to it.
This is one poll where users should be able to pick as many as apply.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:01 PM
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2. "Irresponsible policies" almost all of them
Trying to get rid of the New Deal (Americans are accustomed to it) and lying about not only the war but what almost every major bill actually contains.

BTW-I am lumping all of the higher up Repubes/conservatives/neo-cons together as they really are just one entity.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:01 PM
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3. I voted "despise"
but I really meant "HATE".
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:01 PM
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4. Here's why I hate him
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 02:02 PM by HEyHEY
Because people like him get into politics only because they want the status. Not because they care about the country or it's people. To them it's just a job, do whatever you can to keep it. Never mind what is right. Just keep pushing your personal beliefs on people, and get a good marketing team.
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sexysenior Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:02 PM
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5. How about adding
"All of the above" (except the first two choices) to the list?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:03 PM
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6. but certainly it's not just Americans
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 02:07 PM by G_j
who have lost their lives because of him.

You also left out he is hell bent on destroying the environment, the Constitution, any good will we had towards us in the world, and deviding the country and creating as much 'hate' as possible for the benifit of the PNAC/ Neo-Cons.
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:03 PM
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7. Other
I despise him because he's a War Criminal, a Liar, & a Hypocrite, who has never done a worthy thing in his entire life, & is living high off of the misery & murder of other human beings, & the destruction of the planet. Oh, & the "Christianity/smirk/faux-folksy ways" doesn't help, either.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:04 PM
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8. Isn't "Bush hating" Repubic codespeak?
I think it is. Being that the lurkers are all over this place, I would wonder why you would post such a poll which quite probably will give ammunition to the crazies.

We don't hate Bush just like we don't hate a snake for being a snake.
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:09 PM
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17. Yes it is, but my point was to try and disprove that.
I think I was right. Very few hate or dislike him primarily because of his personal quirks like the smirk, or his "Christianity". WE all have very logical reasons for disliking him. He is an enemy of this country, and the media does NOT report much of what he does. It's Kobe, Laci, and Jacko 24/7.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:29 PM
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24. Hey!
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 02:30 PM by wryter2000
Don't malign snakes. Snakes are extremely beneficial creatures that keep other vermin at bay. Even the venomous snakes are good for the world, unlike Whistle Ass.

:)
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:34 PM
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25. I was just going to say that!
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 02:34 PM by DemXCGI
A snake will bite you because it's hungry, or scared.
I love snakes.
The Bushes are more like cockroaches: you think you kill them, then 8 years later, they pop up again.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:04 PM
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9. my hate for Bush is more thought-out and rational than any emotion
that I have ever felt


ever

no knee-jerking needed for Matthew-san, this is pure objective, tested and proven loathing
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:05 PM
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10. Gee, he stole the election, hi-jacked the budget, plunged us into wars...
Pissed off most of the rest of the world, hasn't finshed or even followed-up in Afghanistan, is choking the future with today's tax bribes (aka tax cuts)....what's not to hate?
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imhotep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:05 PM
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11. I hate his ideology
and we will lose if the perception is we hate Bush the person.
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:06 PM
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12. The election theft, the lies, ...
The thousands of Iraqi civilians who have died, not to mention the invaders who have been killed. The looting of the treasury. And that's just for starters. Don't get me started on how he looks or acts.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:07 PM
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13. I voted "other"
because it's a combination of him being not just your average run-of-the-mill heartless repuke, but a ultra-right ideologue who has lied to us about countless things (being in the pocket of corporations, war, etc.), and is surrounded by liars hell-bent on retaining office at any cost. They have made us hated world-wide, appointed rw judges from the nuts in the federalist society, are trying to kill medicare and the right to choose. Need I go on? Oh, and I HATE him!
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:08 PM
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14. I despise him because of his irresponsible policies
and beacuse he strole the FRIGGING ELECTION
and because of his meaness and his smirk and his arrogant swagger and because he deserted his TANG duty and because he appointed John Ashcroft etc. etc.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:08 PM
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15. i hate his guts
so much, that i dont care it says no logical reason. heh
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:08 PM
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16. I'm off the chart, I'm afraid.
I'd have to vote in a few different categories.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:17 PM
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18. Bush to Gitmo. Permanently, dressed up as a sex slave
for those who are imprisoned.

:eyes:

Hawkeye-X
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Toronto Ron Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:18 PM
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19. I hate him because
1) I hate fascists
2) I hate phonies
3) I hate anti-intellectuals
4) shrub is all of the above
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:22 PM
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20. I have to say "Other". The first time ever I hated the Smirk . . .
was when he acted so proud of his record of execution in Texas. I told a Republican-leaning friend of mine, "This is an evil man, he has no remorse for killing and that's my definition of evil, despite what the criminals did in Texas". Then he mocked that woman he had put to death. From that moment I hated him.

The rest is just icing on the preverbial hate cake.

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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:24 PM
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22. Nothing he nor his regime nor his apologists can ever say or do -
Edited on Mon Dec-08-03 02:32 PM by nu_duer
can bring back the hundreds (probably thousands, not yet reported) of US lives, and the tens of thousands of other lives that have come to a brutal end because of his lies . Nothing can fully restore the shattered, maimed and dismembered bodies of those now suffering because of his lies .

Nothing they - the bush regime, faux news, the fake Christians, the flag-waving morons who support this pos, nothing they can say or do can make this tragedy right, or justified, or forgivable. All the rovian political illusions yet to come will not cover up this continuing tragedy of an unnecessary and fraudulent invasion. And nothing bush can do will separate himslef from it - this is his. The blood is on his hands.

How anybody can not "hate" the moron and his gang of lying, immoral, unAmerican thugs for this (let alone what they've done and continue to do to the "homeland" - perverting our nation, our values and our institutions in such obscene ways) is beyond me.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:24 PM
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23. Other
Bush is a symptom. Capitalism is the disease.
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:36 PM
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26. Are you aware that the democratic party is NOT anti-capitalist?
I would agree if you had said "unfettered" capitalism....


Maybe you would like the socialist or green parties better?
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:10 PM
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28. Once again...
This forum is open to all progressives.

For what it's worth, though there is Democratic Socialists of America, which has many members who are Democrats. Major Owens is a member.
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TolstoyAndy Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 02:59 PM
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27. Other: Rich Boy Election Thief
For me it's been hating since Newspeak ragazine put him on the cover in 1999 and asked (paraphrase) "is this our inevitable next pResident?"

It's been downhill since then. I had a little tickle of hope until his 2000 SC dirty tricks ("McCain is a commie with a black daughter and a druggie wife") took hold.

When the Cheney VP committee found that "gee, after much research, it turns out I'm the best guy. Whodathunkit?", I figured there was skullduggery afoot.

Everything since has been a kick in the head. Reichstag fire 9-11, etc.

Why is this thread called "degree of Bush-hating" ?

I've got a :nuke:ing doctorate in Bush-hating!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:22 PM
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29. This probably isnt too popular of an opinion around here
but I really dont think that George W Bush is an evil man. I think that he is very sheltered from reality, and that he is just a pawn of his father's clan. I think that he probably believes every word he says, because that is what he is lead to believe. I just cant hate the man, because I really think he is just too dumb to hate, if anything I wish he could really see the consequences of his actions.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 04:34 PM
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35. Yeah, I think he's evil
and I think the whole family is evil - you know - "entitled ones"
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:29 PM
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30. "Other" explanation: Character
I dislike him for lack of character. He is a liar, will do anything to hold on to power. His corrupt policies are a natural outgrowth of that. The religiosity, machismo, and anti-intellectualism also dovetail.

He's just a puke!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:34 PM
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31. I Picked "Policies", But. . .
. . .i would add because he is an unaccomplished child of privilege who has undeservedly achieved his current status. That status would be strictly his business, if he wasn't representing the more than half of 280 million who don't want him for president.
The Professor
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:37 PM
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32. i despise him because he is a phoney
CompassionateConservative my ass!
I also despise him because of his policies that benefit the rich and destroy our enviroment.
I despise him once again for the lies he frabicated to get us into an illegal war;. and more importantly, because people are dying so he and his cronies can get the big bucks.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:41 PM
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33. Other
As a person he deserves the same compassion dserved by all sentient beings. It's a Buddhist thing, ya know? He certainly provides me good opportunity to work on that! That doesn't mean I love him, like him, dislike him or despise him. On that front I'm pretty neutral.

As a leader he's a complete freaking disaster and I want him home in Crawford soonest.

The two _are_ compatible.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 03:42 PM
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34. Other: I hate him for being an un-American traitor
murdering, killing, lying, polarizing, propagandizing, wedging, politicizing

So, it's not Bush as much as the entire right-wing establishment that supports this nutsack that I hate. From me to the right-wing, "FUUUUUUUCK YOU!!!"
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 04:45 PM
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36. yup.
Folks, GDub isn't the problem. In fact, I think he's more emblematic of what the right wing wants *us* to be - stupid, malleable, lazy, cowardly - than he is of what *they* are. He's a figurehead.

Of course, he's the figurehead sitting in the Oval Office, so he's the electoral target. But removing Bush without addressing the underlying cabal of reconstructionists, PNACers and corporate globalists is like pissing on an inferno.
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Pinko Commie Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-03 09:46 PM
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37. ulysses has got it
Ever notice how, since Nixon, the Republican idea of the president has been some likable old airheaded dildo?

Bush is the dog and pony show. He exists to distract our attention while the real "president", the NSC, commits all those crimes against the Constitution. You know, the ones they never quite seem to get thrown into prison for.

Hating Bush is like hating your puppy for shitting on the rug. Keep your eyes on the people behind the curtain.
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