Dean on cover of latest issue of The New Republic

With the title "Must He Be Stopped?". Anyone checked the issue out yet?

with the caption "He must be stopped!" Would do nicely.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=chaitcohn072403

"You insist Dean is not a pacifist, and of course he's not. But neither were Michael Dukakis or Walter Mondale. The question is, will Dean come across as insufficiently tough? I think the answer is clearly yes. Remember, Democrats already suffer from a massive disadvantage on foreign policy. Dean's platform simply digs that hole even deeper. The basic thrust of his foreign policy positions is that Bush has done a bad job because he's alienated our allies. Dean has said that his main goal in foreign policy will be to clean up the mess Bush has created. That Bush's foreign policy needs cleaning up is not a majority view, and I don't see it becoming one. If the debate in foreign affairs is between the candidate who says we've angered the rest of the world and the candidate who says he'll do whatever is necessary to protect Americans, the latter will win in a landslide, especially if he enjoys Bush's preexisting advantages on the issue."

...necessary to protect Americans"

Whew...the Audacity!

Bush will do "Whatever's necessary" to promote the PNAC agenda, and stir up oil profits for his Energy Buddies.

History will show that his administration failed to take down the country which inflicted 9/11 on us: Saudi Arabia.

And that his vendetta war against Saddam gave rise to a multitude of sins.

maybe he is for armed protection for this country , but what about protecting our obs and us agaist the big corperation who are selling us off a few at a time , this shit has got to be stopped , we are in deep shit here and for me i could give a flying shit about iraq and all there oil , we need work right here in this country and jr. has given the green lite to every buiness that wants to ship jobs to other countrys a go ahead , i want his ass on a platter with a apple in his dam mouth , them i will be a happy man , and them start making all these companys thaty have shipped our jobs out pay the price for there mistake of leaving us as a failing nation , make them pay big time money to bring there junk back in this country to resell to us ,

The Case Against Howard Dean

and

The Case Against The Case Against Howard Dean

...it sure does look like a DLC rag now.

Although my posts so far have been about Clark's campaign, I think Dean has a better chance of winning than people give him credit for. He's quite moderate on most issues (How often do you see an NRA Dem?)If Clark doesn't run (unlikely) I'll probably support Dean.


The DLC was once a useful centrist think-tank that managed to move the party to the center, away from the "McGovern/Mondale" wing. I don't think the DLC was a bad group in the early '90s, but the DLC has worn out it's welcome in the party. Instead of being proactive and being able to frame public perception of debates on issues, it's entire agenda is based on REACTING to Republican initiatives. The DLCers have this perception that debates on issues will inevitably be framed by Shrub and feel that being the "Me Too" party will make the Democrats competitive. The DLC is just a decadant Focus Group-driven/Consultant-driven/poll-driven wing of our party. Eventually the DLC will go the way of the Dixiecrat wing, and Centrist Democrats (who are NOT Bush-Lites, exception for Lieberman and Zell Miller)will stay true to their party and stand up to Shrub.

it's a think tank, that's all

waht has Dean done other than react to republicans that the other dems have?

TNR is not the post, they know politics, and of course an argument about electoral politics, was once again ignored/dismissed by the Dean-people and turned into an argument about policy/Bush

However, any publicity is good publicity at this stage. Everybody on the left and the right seems to be reacting to Dean, which is exactly what Team Dean wants.

The New Republic is essentially moderate on foreign policy (hawkish when going to war, but encouraging reconstruction etc. Right now they are basically taking back their support of the Iraq war) and liberal on domestic/economy issues. Their editors don't really follow an agenda, and they're all brilliant. It's my favorite mag.

is a DLC PNAC whore?